Addicted to porn

[puporing]

@Tangerinedream Yeah it can be demoralizing when few people seem to be genuine... And with sexuality, it's a vulnerable situation. So trust is pretty important imo. So feeling like you're disposable is not going to make you feel trusting. And for someone to fully trust the other to express their authentic sexuality might also take some time (feeling of emotional safety etc). Overall I guess we could all be a bit more proactive and work on being the best partner we could be, and trust that it would attract someone with similar outlooks. 

[Tangerinedream]

12 minutes ago, Something Funny said:

Why can't both be true? Don't you think that some women might actually be lazy and entitled and think that a guy is the only one who should put in effort and "impress" her, while she can lay there like a starfish. At the same time, I guess Leo might be hooke on porn more than he would like to admit and that probably skews his view of sex, relationships, and women to some degree.

I totally agree with you about blaming part. But again, you are also blaming Leo here, so we are all guilty of that and it is hard to be perfect.

It can both be true.  I’m not trying to blame him, just calling out stuff he says.  He makes a lot of claims about Women so don’t be surprised when women have something to say bout it lol 

[Tangerinedream]

4 minutes ago, Something Funny said:

love your username. Every time I read it, it reminds of Nami from One Piece

Thanks.  Well Tangerine Dream is a German electronic band from the 70s, and at the time I made this account my hair was a peach colour and I was listening to one of tangerine dreams albums.. lol 

[Etherial Cat]

10 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

@Etherial Cat You think guys don't know the difference between a girl who knows how to have sex and one who doesn't?

Lol

"Knowing how to have sex" depends on what the guy's perception of sexuality is.

Cast not pearls before swine. ?‍♀️

9 minutes ago, PurpleTree said:

do you think women often act horny if they aren't because they think guys like it?

Having to act horny is a performance. It takes a lot of mental energy. The best is to be horny.

A girl who will act horny will do it because she wants the guy to believe she enjoys herself for some reason. But if she's got to act, she's not being there herself.

Sex is much better when it's enjoyed on both side. Otherwise, it's like a chore or a job. 

[Etherial Cat]

26 minutes ago, puporing said:

Sorry but I have to disagree with this, it totally depends on the person... and I also cannot claim to know what other women are like in this regard.

I'm basing my opinion on studies and documentaries made on the impact of porn on human sexuality, as well as on female sexuality. It's rather well documented. 

And just like movies are not reality, porn is not depicting accurately sexuality. It's often acted, scripted, or designed for a specific audience.

[K Ghoul]

1 minute ago, Etherial Cat said:

"Knowing how to have sex" depends on what the guy's perception of sexuality is.

 

I’m sorry but what do you mean by that?  You guys are arguing concepts - love making/feminine concept of sex vs fucking/mens concept. Do you honestly think you would be able to outperform sexual workers who have made it their career to fuck men professionally? 
 

[puporing]

8 minutes ago, Etherial Cat said:

And just like movies are not reality, porn is not depicting accurately sexuality. It's often acted, scripted, or designed for a specific audience.

Yes but some people (men or women) are into 'acting' (in quotation because this is a grey zone) to have a particular sexual experience, rather than some kind of imposition. Literally some people treat it as a form of self-expression/art. But I get that that may not be too common, just wanted to point out exceptions.

Edited February 16, 2022 by puporing

[Etherial Cat]

Just now, K Ghoul said:

I’m sorry but what do you mean by that?  You guys are arguing concepts - love making/feminine concept of sex vs fucking/mens concept. Do you honestly think you would be able to outperform sexual workers who have made it their career to fuck men professionally? 
 

Sex as a job is a very different type of sex than sex between lovers.

I'm only interested in the later.

[K Ghoul]

Just now, Etherial Cat said:

Sex as a job is a very different type of sex than sex between lovers.

I'm only interested in the later.

Yep, I understand. But i don’t think sex between lovers is what men are having in mind when discussing porn and good sex and all that. I know what you mean though 

[Etherial Cat]

5 minutes ago, puporing said:

Yes but some people (men or women) are into acting to have a particular sexual experience, rather than some kind of imposition. Literally some people treat it as a form of self-expression/art. But I get that that may not be too common, just wanted to point out exceptions.

If you've got some emotional arousal from it, there is not problem. My point was exactly that female need to be emotionally stimulated for sex.

I'm just saying that a lot of women will not be aroused like in a porn or by your average porn like sexuality.

[K Ghoul]

3 minutes ago, Something Funny said:

@K Ghoul  to be fair I think that it should be easy to outperform a sexual worker when you are in a good relationship since pleasure from sex is probably largely emotional and isn't purely about physical techniques.

Also it's not like porn actresses are trying to become very good at having amazing sex, but rather trying to get good at being flashy and improve their acting skills.

pleasure from sex is probably largely emotional - I don’t think that’s how men experience sexual pleasure. I could be wrong though 

[K Ghoul]

2 minutes ago, Something Funny said:

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- Girl being beautiful is an emotional stimulation
- Being able to have sex with a beutiful girl is an emotional stimulation , because it gives you a sense of validation.
 

 

Didn’t we have Leo share his experience how he fucked a 10 and couldn’t even cum? Something doesn’t add up 

 

[puporing]

2 minutes ago, Something Funny said:

Also different people prefer different kinds of emotional stimulation.

- Girl being beautiful is an emotional stimulation
- Being able to have sex with a beutiful girl is an emotional stimulation , because it gives you a sense of validation.
- Being very intimate with a girl is an emotional stimulation
- A girl being very loving and accepting towards you is an emotional stimulation
- Having some crazy bdsm sex is an emotional stimulation

yup lol. 

[K Ghoul]

2 minutes ago, Something Funny said:

No, that actually proves my point.

A guy who is super obsessed with looks and have never had a sex with a super hot girl might cum in 10 seconds because of how excited he is.

Leo, on the other hand, lives in Vegas, and probably sees a tonn of hot girls every day and had sex with enough of them, so it doesn't feel that special to him anymore and so he needs a different kind of stimulation. Therefore a hot girl just lazily laying there is not enough for him anymore and I guess he wants to feel like she is also trying to make him feel good.

I don’t see how it proves your point and your claim that “ It is emotional stimulation that man are seeking and not a physical sensation.”  
 

I guess he wants to feel like she is also trying to make him feel good. - no he doesn’t want to feel like she is trying he just wants to feel his dick being properly stimulated 

 

Anyway. Like I mentioned earlier you guys were arguing different concepts and what’s considered good sex for women(love making) is not what’s considered good sex for men(prostitutes would then have been all out of business a long time ago)
 

 

 

[Terell Kirby]

Women can definitely be lazy in bed .. no denying that. Men and can too, of course.

Point is, sexual chemistry goes out the window if either partner is not interested in pleasing in the other. Really boils down to selfishness on both sides.

[K Ghoul]

1 minute ago, Something Funny said:

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You problem is that you are assuming that all men are the same. Which is actually not the case. Some men like to have sex with prostitutes, some like one night stands, some like friends with benefits, some like commited realtionships. Not only that, but the same guy can want different things and different stages of his life. So just because prostitutes exist doesn't mean that this is the only type of sex that men consider good.

 

I don’t have.. problem  nor do I recall implying that all men like having their dick stimulated in the exact same way…

 

 

[Etherial Cat]

2 minutes ago, Something Funny said:

@Etherial Cat
 

Am I allowed to use that card here as well, haha?

No. 

...

More seriously, that answer isn't at all that outlandish due to the context.

I'm being asked for proof of knowledge/experience to reverse the default presumption here, which is that Leo knows better than female how female sexuality works.

[AuthenticSelf]

5 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Ya'll are not even conscious of what porn is. You totally take it for granted.

One time I watched some porn right after coming down from N,N-DMT and was absolutely amazed at everything that went into making it. And I'm talking about the physics of this reality that allowed for it to happen, the fact that human bodies perform the way they do, all the life choices the girl went through to be in the specific moment of time to make that video. You can get pretty deep with it all and it's truly amazing haha. 

Just like anything else in life really. Sacred awe at how it all came together.

[K Ghoul]

1 minute ago, Something Funny said:

@K Ghoul  so passive agressive...

To be fair, you saying that:

Implies that in all men should like having their dick stimulated in the exact same way.
 

 

And if you’d allow yourself to think in more abstract terms you would understand why I used prostitutes as an example to emphasize my point as it’s prostitution that first comes to mind and is generally associated with raw sex - no feelings, no emotions, I pay you - you fuck me - I cum, the end. Which is the idea that was relevant to what I was saying, so it’s rather bizarre that you’d assign it additional layer of meaning that wasn’t there 

 

 

[K Ghoul]

@Something Funny I see now where we got tripped up- physical pleasure from raw sex.

Can you define “physical pleasure from raw sex”?