Danger of spirituality getting popular... ?

[Forza21]

Spirituality was kept secret for a thousand of years, reserved for those, who were seeking it, for their whole lives. 

Buddhist monks sacrifice their entire lives, to meditate ( half day, every day!), help others, eat the right amount of food, don't get attached to money or any materialistic needs - all because they want to dissolve their egos.

Did you ever think why?


MAYBE because what happens, when spirituality is introduced to masses. 

People, after a few months of meditation and some psychedelics, think they are enlightened, and without of ego. Of course, it's another illusion, They replace their "non- enlightened ego", to the " enlightened-ego",  and then shit happens. They still chase pleasure, and want to obtain "law of attraction" , because all they care about is their egoistic needs! Then we have tons of "new age" people, crazy theories, and they still don't realize, that others = them. 

So what's better for the world, to keep spiritual private, or make it more popular?  

In the end, what are the chances, that "common" west people, get proper enlightened, which is what east Buddhist struggle their whole life to achieve? Isn't it impossible? What is the point? Or maybe buddhist method is inefficient? What do to think?

 

[Terell Kirby]

This has already happened in a sense .. religious dogma is a bi-product of spirituality and mysticism becoming popular.

We should expect this .. but it shouldn't stop from spiritual leaders from making the effort to raise collective consciousness.

Instead of focusing outward, turn inwards and make sure you avoid becoming a Zen devil yourself.

[Consilience]

25 minutes ago, Forza21 said:

So what's better for the world, to keep spiritual private, or make it more popular?  

More popular. The need for a massive, collective growth in the qualities of wisdom and compassion are rapidly growing. Humanity is walking off a cliff and taking the entire planet with it; run away climate change may very well be an inevitability at this point. The only glimmer of hope humanity has is if we become wiser and more compassionate, which is essentially the byproduct of spirituality done correctly. Through a combination of widespread psychedelic usage and mass adoption of contemplative practice, there is still hope.

However, if we just keep repeating these collective cycles of destructive behavior, yeah it’s only a matter of time before a very painful shift happens. Again, a shift that doesn't just threaten humanity but all life on Earth, more than it already is.

[Raze]

Far less dangerous than the dangers of it not becoming popular 

[BipolarGrowth]

6 hours ago, Forza21 said:

In the end, what are the chances, that "common" west people, get proper enlightened, which is what east Buddhist struggle their whole life to achieve? Isn't it impossible? What is the point? Or maybe buddhist method is inefficient? What do to think?

 

Many, possibly most, Buddhist monks today likely do very little actual spiritual practice. Here’s a Bhikkhu (Buddhist monk) expressing his frustrations and disappointment with these pretenders. 

He essentially says it is more honorable and better for the world to be a plumber or electrician than it is to be a monk who does not have the express goal of realizing Nibbana in this lifetime. There are many westerners who will have a better chance of realizing Nibbana even as laypeople than this large portion of the Buddhist monks who are merely pretenders will and even, in some cases, have a better chance than those who are practicing monks. The rigid life of a monk may be less fruitful for many people as the restrictions can possibly backfire to create a life filled with resistance. 

Even to be a Bhikkhu who practices diligently can cause problems as Buddhism operates very similar to cliques in high school. You do not want to find yourself in an environment that constantly discounts other potentially valuable perspectives if you really want Truth. There are cultural and ideological wars going on within Buddhism to a high degree today, and the chance that most Buddhists will be open to other forms of spirituality outside of Buddhism is rather low also.

I say all of this while being a strong advocate of Buddhist meditation techniques. 

Edited February 10, 2022 by BipolarGrowth

[Nahm]

There isn’t anyone which doesn’t realize others = them, or has egotistical needs.  

There is no such thing as enlightened people. 

Loa is a universal law. 

[allislove]

Ego is not an entity, so it can't be dissolved. Ego is activity, identification with self referential thinking.

Enlightenment is not achievement, it's self realization.

If you are enlightened - everything is. Self realization is the best gift you can render the world as Ramana once said, so focus inwards via daily morning meditation. ?

[Leo Gura]

Truth can never be popular.

[Terell Kirby]

3 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Truth can never be popular.

Isn't this placing limitation on Truth?

I like to be an optimist in a sense that mankind will someday unite around it. Of course most of us here will be long dead by then .. but its possible that this is where collective consciousness is heading.

Edited February 11, 2022 by Terell Kirby

[Leo Gura]

The truth is there isn't a mankind, only You.

Truth cannot be popular because there exists only one being who can know Truth, and that is you.

Humankind does not exist at the level of Absolute Truth.

[Terell Kirby]

4 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Humankind does not exist at the level of Absolute Truth.

I get it. Something being “popular” comes with the notion that it hold shared value among more than one person or thing … basically creating duality.

Reality (God or I) is ultimately One .. having nothing and no one to share its insights with .. Thanks @Leo Gura