Does IQ matter?

[Manusia]

How IQ matter in your life? 

Edited February 6, 2022 by Manusia

[Preety_India]

Depends on the kind of IQ. Emotional IQ definitely matters. 

 

[hyruga]

Of course, IQ matters.

It helps you learn more things and learn things faster than others with low IQ. You may even get into a university programme, graduate with degree or masters or PhD and be set for life without having to worry on having no money to eat ever.

But other aspects like EQ also matters.

 

[Twenty]

1 hour ago, Manusia said:

How IQ matter in your life? 

It simply make you think faster. 

[Roy]

It's the most important thing in life, even more than money. You want to maximize your IQ as much as you can, in fact you should also steal the IQ points of other people as well.

[Lews Therin]

1 hour ago, Roy said:

It's the most important thing in life, even more than money. You want to maximize your IQ as much as you can, in fact you should also steal the IQ points of other people as well.

True, my brother was being annoying, so i stole his iq points while he slept. Next day they kicked him out of uni and invited me to take his place. They also gave me money.

 

Seriously though, it helps you to do practical stuff, which means that society will perceive you as more valuable. That said it is not a final answer on how much you can contribute. It has absolutely nothing to do with wisdom, so someone with a high iq can easily spent their life doing something useless very well.

I read one article one time that said Darwin was considered by many intelectuals ho knew him to not be a very smart/fast thinking guy, but who was able to compensate that by having very good methods of aquiring knolledge.

He would write down any idea he had and the arguments in favour, and then write the arguments against and try to go really far on them.

I don't know how much of that is true, but it carries well the idea that intelignce without wisdom doesn't mean much.

It also is probably somewhat irrelevant in term of spirituality.

In my life it has been the basis of my ego as it started to develop and leave the "conformist stage", i'm not a genius who does everything easily, but am smart enough to have the respect of my peers without having to do much effort.

In part because of that i became somewhat lazy in many regards, wich i am trying to fix. In others, it made me confident enough to dream high on my goals, how that will turn out in the end, we will see.

[Manusia]

2 hours ago, Roy said:

in fact you should also steal the IQ points of other people as well

What do you mean by stealing IQ points of other people? I dont get it

[Manusia]

2 hours ago, Twenty said:

It simply make you think faster. 

Just fast? 

What you saying does not include accuracy as well. 

[itachi uchiha]

iq is unchangable  . so focus on other things like understanding mastery process, developing work ethic , using law of attraction to your advantage, changing belief system etc. very few percentage of the jobs like 1 % or something require high iq. for the rest of the jobs, u can perform very good by focusing on non iq factors

[Roy]

1 hour ago, Manusia said:

What do you mean by stealing IQ points of other people? I dont get it

I was just playing around.

[Salvijus]

Spiritual iq is best.

There's an intelligence beyond mind's intelect and emotion. Embody that instead.

Edited February 6, 2022 by Salvijus

[Manusia]

1 hour ago, itachi uchiha said:

iq is unchangable  .

@itachi uchiha I hear Leo talk about psychedelic is good for brain function because it is good for neuron in the brain (I dont rembember the exact quote). What do you think? Can it make the IQ points up too? 

Edited February 6, 2022 by Manusia

[Manusia]

@Salvijus what the exact benefit you experience with spiritual IQ? actually this is the first time I hear that. 

[Salvijus]

29 minutes ago, Manusia said:

@Salvijus what the exact benefit you experience with spiritual IQ? actually this is the first time I hear that. 

Ability to solve conflicts and bring harmony.

Increased spontaneity and authenticity.

Creativity and devine inspiration.

Wisdom and clarity of thought.

Ability to penetrate and gain insights into any problem.

Deep self awareness and depth of presence.

Very high intuition and ability to discern what is true and what is false.

Ability to see through lies and recognize authenticity in others.

Deeper connection to god and your own Self.

If spiritual iq goes very high you may become like buddha and know everything that is worth knowing in the universe.

These are just some benefits of the top of my head. The list is probably much longer.

 

...

"actually this is the first time I hear that. "

Yeah that's because I've just invented it ? another name for it commonly used is your 'level of awareness' or 'spiritual growth'.

Edited February 6, 2022 by Salvijus

[supremeyingyang]

7 hours ago, Roy said:

It's the most important thing in life, even more than money. You want to maximize your IQ as much as you can, in fact you should also steal the IQ points of other people as well.

 

5 hours ago, Lews Therin said:

True, my brother was being annoying, so i stole his iq points while he slept. Next day they kicked him out of uni and invited me to take his place. They also gave me money.

Chapeau!

8 hours ago, Manusia said:

How IQ matter in your life? 

We have to ask: What is IQ? I'm not a trained Psychologist, but from what I know IQ is a Quotient, where 100 is defined as average. This is the assumed distribution:
 

... you see that 2/3 are between 85 and 115, which is called one standard deviation in statistics, here 100 +- 15. The two third are your regular people, most people you interact with. The people below have real problems surviving on their own as their are seriously disadvantaged or even considered mentally disable. Then we have above average with relatively more of achievers.

Questions

Is IQ unimportant? Largely yes, if you are at 100 or more. Below it's a serious disadvantage. The result can hintto the borders of your capability.
Why is a below average IQ Person at a disadvantage? They learn slower, are not able to think quick enough and lack maybe even the mental capacity to grasp some things no matter how hard and long you try. Math can be an example. In a more and more complex world it's not that much fun to be born not clever. Back in the day they could in the US or in the West in general just work in a factory and be well of. That 'work hard, do what you are told' jobs disappear and new jobs emerge there people have to know more and more. Being a programmer or consultant is an example; I sometimes forget in my company that the distribution there is not the norm.
What can I do if I have a relatively low IQ? Educate yourself, develope good methods (like @Lews Therin wrote) and be aware that some things might get more work for you than for others
Is the IQ the dominant determinant of my life? No, there are uncountable factors. But if you have an 80 that's a serious problem you cannot ignore. On the flip side has an IQ of 115 or more problems and traps as well. These People tend to get lazy because they can coast by at school and THEN sometimes have problems in basics of survival like working even in basic jobs because they are smarter than everyone else. These are the type of people you met after they got a new job and they tell you 1h or so how stupid their new boss is and that a bunch of things are not well set up at the company - of course not getting the point that they are shooting themselves in the foot. Maybe that's then a lack of EQ or just modesty? IDK. My point is: Some things that can count more than a high IQ. The above average IQ person often does not want to see that these are important: EQ, hierarchy, education, work ethic, even luck... And of course you can improve all of these, even luck can be in a sense cultivated^^

Edited February 6, 2022 by supremeyingyang

[supremeyingyang]

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Edited February 6, 2022 by supremeyingyang

[itachi uchiha]

@Manusia research polgar sisters.

They became greate because of the quality of their practice and how much amount of time they practiced.

Iq was not a factor in their success

[happyhappy]

On 2/6/2022 at 7:51 AM, Manusia said:

How IQ matter in your life? 

yes.. there are many forms of IQ. and all forms do matter in a certain sense. if someone was born with a low IQ, that person will struggle in the maths class regardless of how hard he tries. 

yet, hard work beats talent right? some people are naturally gifted in certain faculties and their success is at an advantage. but , you know, there are thousands of people who were having low IQs and made much progress for humanity than those who had a big brain on their shoulders.

.talent+ hard work+ luck + passion 

when ever any term of the equation is missing, it affects the overall success quotient. and other terms can make up for the terms that are naturally lacking . 

 

[Alex_R]

In the worst case scenario if you are below average you will need to put 5% or maybe 10% more effort than normal people and taking in mind that majority of people nowdays are lazy as fuck you should not care about this.

 

 

[BlueOak]

Matters, for me means does it become material. So it depends if its helping or hindering something be done.

Intellect can offer a potential breadth to act, it gives you options and reveals connections. It can give you insights, and allow you to learn things faster than others.

Intellect can be over analysis. It can be used for disconnection, and arrogance. It can be used for anxiety and worry, or procastination. It can be used for self hatred. It can help reinforce a harmful emotion state by overloading you with reasons why you are in that state.

Its all about focus, like everything, and where you put it. 

As has been mentioned there are many types of IQ, three that are missed almost entirely in education are emotional IQ, social IQ and financial IQ. Which is where you see the holes in society and the problems it experiences.