What is the best definition of being enlightened you have come across?

[Nahm]

14 minutes ago, ChrisZoZo said:

Are you asking?

 

Apparently. 

[softlyblossoming]

3 minutes ago, ChrisZoZo said:

@softlyblossoming I genuinely don't understand what he was saying.

@ChrisZoZo I'll let him answer as it's bad karma to put words in the mouth of such a master as Nahm. Intellectual understanding gets a bad rep, but it's not so bad. That said, reminders from a master as to where to look are also not so bad.

[softlyblossoming]

8 minutes ago, ChrisZoZo said:

@softlyblossoming I genuinely don't understand what he was saying.

@ChrisZoZo Look with your 3D lateral looking goggles.

[RMQualtrough]

49 minutes ago, ChrisZoZo said:

@RMQualtrough Good as a description of realizing what you are but I have had that on psychedelics and I certainly ain't enlightened.  

I think the realization of what you are is it.

[ChrisZoZo]

@Nahm You don't know? Or are you trying to be clever? I know its in your power to speak normally. 

[Nahm]

1 minute ago, ChrisZoZo said:

@Nahm You don't know? Or are you trying to be clever?

Thoughts appear. An example is ‘definition’, ‘you’, ‘don’t, ‘know’. As is, this is an appearance, thoughts appearing. Thoughts can also be believed to be true, then there can be the (still just apparent) belief there is a Nahm which does or does not know… whatever it is, which is believed. Nothing can not per se ‘be clever’, as clever is of course, just another appearance (thought). 

1 minute ago, ChrisZoZo said:

I know its in your power to speak normally. 

This is english. What’s ‘more normal’?

[ChrisZoZo]

@Nahm Actions speak louder that words

[Nahm]

@ChrisZoZo

Indeed. Meditate. 

[ChrisZoZo]

@Nahm Meditate? What do you mean by that?

 

[Nahm]

@ChrisZoZo

Nothing. 

[ChrisZoZo]

@Nahm what do you mean by that?

[ChrisZoZo]

@Nahm Do nothing? You mean nothing? what do you mean please tell me.

[Nahm]

@ChrisZoZo

Ye might say meditation is the allowing of the settling of the thoughts that there is a Nahm which means something, or most simply & normally said, nothing.  

[ChrisZoZo]

22 minutes ago, Nahm said:

You might say meditation is the allowing of the settling of the thoughts

 @Nahm Thoughts appear. An example is ‘You’, ‘might ’, ‘say , ‘meditation ’. As is, this is an appearance, thoughts appearing. Thoughts can also be believed to be true, then there can be the (still just apparent) belief there is a 'settling' which does or does not know… whatever it is, which is believed. Nothing can not per se 'settling ’, as settling is of course, just another appearance (thought). 

22 minutes ago, Nahm said:

that there is a Nahm which means something, or most simply & normally said, nothing.  

This is mediation collapsing distinctions? you could of just said

[Nahm]

7 minutes ago, ChrisZoZo said:

This is mediation collapsing distinctions?

No. 

[ChrisZoZo]

@Nahm No and yes all possible combinations are held with in god. And from which...

16 minutes ago, ChrisZoZo said:

This is mediation collapsing distinctions?

is yes. 

Edited January 29, 2022 by ChrisZoZo

[Someone here]

20 hours ago, Khan 0 said:

 I am just saying sleeping is identical with waking state

How? They seem quite different. 

[Khan 0]

48 minutes ago, Someone here said:

How? They seem quite different. 

If you genuinely not know, it is identical.

[softlyblossoming]

20 hours ago, ChrisZoZo said:

I know its in your power to speak normally. 

@ChrisZoZo implying Nahm has any power left over his actions XP

[Chrisd]

On 29-1-2022 at 3:21 PM, ChrisZoZo said:

What is the best definition of being enlightened you have come across?   

To be free of thoughts + a sense of happiness. 

„The talk is in your world. In mine – there is eternal silence. My silence sings, my emptiness is full. I lack nothing. You cannot know my world until you are there.“

Source: https://quotepark.com/quotes/1777151-nisargadatta-maharaj-the-talk-is-in-your-world-in-mine-there-is-eter/