In depth description of Gary L Wimmer NDE and enlightenment description

[The Lucid Dreamer]

1 hour ago, Leilani said:

@The Lucid Dreamer I have heard people say who have had both an NDE and a DMT experience that nothing can compare to the magnitude of the NDE its just not the same even though to people who havent experienced either they sound very similar. I have seen this question asked many times on the NDE group I am a part of. It has close to 58,000 members last  I checked

Oh yeah, I’m sure the DMT experience is peanuts compared to a full blown NDE.  Though on paper, they seem to have some similarities in terms of their sequential structure: Going through a tunnel, communicating with beings who greet you on the other side as if they’ve known you for eternity, encounter with “God”, which in the NDE’s is going into and merging with the light. Not sure what that experience is like on DMT.  There is also similarities in the type of information people come back with.

However, there does seem to be a big difference in terms of aesthetics between a DMT experience and an NDE. On DMT, you see a lot of colorful geometry and almost everything you see in the experience has this sort of geometrical quality to it, including the entities.  Almost no one who’s had an NDE has reported their experience being like that to my knowledge. 

Edited January 28, 2022 by The Lucid Dreamer

[Leo Gura]

As you become more conscious reality becomes more and more an infinitely interconnected singularity. Until finally you become like an absolute white hole of pure infinitely interconnected consciousness. At this level you are conscious of absolutely everything that could ever be at once.

At this level there are no souls, others, worlds, or forms at all. All of it exists as a pure abstraction within the singularity.

You become pure INFINITY. Infinity as a metaphysical abstraction. This is your ultimate undivided Self. And finally you understand why anything exists. Because: INFINITY.

The end.

[The Lucid Dreamer]

@Leo Gura Party pooper. 

[Leilani]

@Leo Gura

From someone who was a catholic lawyer who had an NDE. She discovered during her nde that Source, God knows all things is all things but knowing intellectually what a leaf is and actually experiencing what its like to be a leaf are two different things. We come here to experience all we know intellectually. We stepped into the book. We stepped into the movie. 

[Leo Gura]

Of course the source is Infinity, and it is such a complete Unity that limitation does not exist there. Limitation only exists within finite dreams, and the finite dreams give contrast to the Infinite, the Unlimited.

The finite seeks to be Infinite. The Infinite seeks to be finite. And thus reality moves in a circle with no beginning or end.

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I still sense a lack of God-realization in that NDE description. The writer is still not fully owning oneself as God.

But other than that it's pretty damn accurate.

[Leilani]

@Leo Gura @Leo Gura

She eases into it. This Is not her description of her actual death experience which she describes much differently but she gives these suddle examples more towards the beginning for people who are first trying to understand. People who have been indoctrinated into fearing God. I've talked with her for years and she refers to herself in third person often and says she is like a book character in Sources mind. When someone asked who sent her back her or God she said that it doesn't matter because there is no difference in the two. That she is like a thought in the mind of God. 

Edited January 29, 2022 by Leilani

[Leo Gura]

5 minutes ago, Leilani said:

@Leo Gura

That she is like a thought in the mind of God. 

That's good.

But even that smacks of a subtle duality. She isn't a thought in the mind of God. She is God.

Sorry for being so nitpicky, but erasing every last separation between you and God is the key.

She should speak of herself in the first person, as God

[Leilani]

@Leo Gura

Your fine I understand I just think it was probably hard for her to understand all of this as when she had the experience it was completely without any study of anything like her experience. (Excuse the picture of the dog I'm putting my daughter to bed with a sleep meditation)

[Leilani]

@Leilani I asked her about some of these issues with the duality between her and God and she said the person who edited her book was actually a Christian and she changed some of the wording. If you communicate with her on other platforms she is very firm in her assertion of being Source or God. 

[Leilani]

@Leo Gura also the distinction being "She" (Nanci) Is a thought in the mind of her true self which is Source or God

[Leo Gura]

Yeah, so she's very much on point. Good for her. Now how about you?

[Leilani]

@Leo Gura I have told you before I had this realization and experience a long time ago. I have been integrating ever since. 

[Hello from Russia]

8 hours ago, The Lucid Dreamer said:

Oh yeah, I’m sure the DMT experience is peanuts compared to a full blown NDE.

Depends on how much you take, lol