I think LEO must be clear on " You are the only one that exist" for liberation.

[Gianna]

1 hour ago, JohnD said:

You need a certain degree of boundaries between your ego and other egos before you integrate those insights or you get an incoherent, codependent world-view plastered with the appearance of high-consciousness. You also lose the stability offered by the lower level world-views in the psychic space.

 

Hehehe, literally. I really like this. 

[Inliytened1]

5 hours ago, RMQualtrough said:

I've taken the same drugs, I know what happens.

My position is, I do not see any reason that it would not be possible that pain happens when I shoot you in the foot. I don't find it contradictory. If you are all just saying other people's inner experiences might be happening, but they are merely had by you, it's just putting weird labels on very firmly established Buddhist and Hindu mystic revelations.

It's actually quite easy to be precise on the position. But instead of course I see the high school teen schoolyard discussion type solipsism being discussed because people just refuse to be concise in their meaning.

I've taken no drugs.  All awakenings were either meditation or spontaneous.  You may have had some glimpses but to answer your own questions is going to require awakening.  You can go round and round here all you like..I don't mind shooting the shit with you..but it's gonna be actual awakening that answers all questions.

[SOUL]

Millions of posts and millions of hours spent online collectively telling each other you don't exist is absolute internet spirituality nonsense.

[Inliytened1]

2 minutes ago, SOUL said:

Millions of posts and millions of hours spent online collectively telling each other you don't exist is absolute internet spirituality nonsense.

Yet here you are...

[SOUL]

6 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

Yet here you are...

Somebody has to say it...you're welcome.

[OBEler]

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Actually, my experiences (Leo) are just thoughts in your mind( as God) . So it's a rather flimsy sort of imagination you ( as God) are using to imagine my inner world ( as Leo) . The imagination you use (As God)  to imagine physical reality is much stronger and deeper.

Are these perspectives i wrote in the brackets right?

Always confusing if you dont write from which perspective you write (I,you, ego, god, absolute, relative, all together)

[Inliytened1]

1 minute ago, SOUL said:

Somebody has to say it...you're welcome.

Thanks ? ? 

[SOUL]

3 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

Thanks ? ? 

Anytime

[Matthew85]

@Leo Gura

@machiavelli Isn't it obvious to you that before you were born no humans existed? And after you die none will exist?

Leo, I have heard you reference this before. Are you saying that before the creation of our ego personality self earth wasn't already being imagined? I have clear memories of observing earth, my mother and choosing her to be my parent for this life prior to being born. Is your opinion these pre birth memories are just another aspect of our infinite imagination? You're not saying with the death of a personality self earth disappears for all the other personalities right?

[Leo Gura]

15 minutes ago, Matthew85 said:

@Leo Gura

Are you saying that before the creation of our ego personality self earth wasn't already being imagined? I have clear memories of observing earth, my mother and choosing her to be my parent for this life prior to being born. Is your opinion these pre birth memories are just another aspect of our infinite imagination?

Birth itself is imaginary. So are all your memories of course. The entire past is imaginary.

You have no past really, you are just imagining that in the now.

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You're not saying with the death of a personality self earth disappears for all the other personalities right?

I am saying that right now the Earth is something you are imagining, and you're imaging all those others too for whom there is an Earth.

[Matthew85]

@Leo Gura Thank you! I get it.

It can be a little confusing since we have higher mind imagination and ego personality imagination. Since my higher mind was imagining people living on earth prior to my "birth" when I "die" and move to the next level of my dream, more than likely, I will imagine that life on earth will continue. 

Edited January 29, 2022 by Matthew85

[Leo Gura]

20 minutes ago, Matthew85 said:

when I "die" and move to the next level of my dream, more than likely, I will imagine that life on earth will continue.

Whatever helps you sleep better at night.

[Matthew85]

5 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Whatever helps you sleep better at night.

It's funny Leo. When I think about it I don't personally feel an attachment to it one way or the other. I am just speculating from my pre birth memories and OBE's I have had, that this is the dream my higher mind is orchestrating for me to explore now. I appreciate you sharing your insights!  

[Ry4n]

What everyone here fails to realise is that it is in fact the ego who is God, not your egos of course, but only mine. All of your experiences are imaginary, I am in fact the only perspective in the entire universe that is not imagination. All that exists in reality is this room and this computer. All of what I am experiencing is real, however yours is not. Sorry, not sorry.

Edited January 29, 2022 by Ry4n