Balancing being good enough and being different to attract people?

[Yali]

1 minute ago, Pavement said:

nobody knows for real how good or not good Leo’s game is, we only know what he tells us lol.  Just all speculation depending on how you imagine him. 

good enough to get laid  

 

[Thestarguitarist14]

It’s hilarious that guys are still doing pick up in 2022.

As a 29 year old who did pick up hardcore for 3 years, stopped approaching every day and got better results, I say this:

Stop focusing on women.

18-25 is the worst for dating as a guy.  We have no advantage and don’t know shot.  25-29 is better, but we still have no leverage.  In fact, most men do not get any leverage in dating until they are 35 and they are making six figures.

Cold approaching in 2022 is not a good strategy IMO.  You can get laid, but it’s just playing the numbers game.  You are better off working on yourself as a man, networking in your city, going on, and when you meet women along the way, see them as a good time.  Me personally now I go out to dinner at a place with a nice bar on Saturday and go to another venue from there and on Saturdays I like going to events.  Speaking of which, bars and clubs are not good places to meet women.  Events, private parties, the street, cafes, hiking trails and etc are way better.  Most of the women that I have dated came from netting them on the street during the day.

As far as Leo’s game after watching his videos I doubt he’s that good.  He probably has gotten a girlfriend or two from it (which anyone can of they are willing to approach a lot), but I doubt he is having a ton of second dates if you know what I mean.  

[Roy]

22 minutes ago, Yali said:

good enough to get laid  

You just exactly proved his point lol. You don't really have any idea. Really for all we know he could be lying, maybe he just learned all the techniques and talks about it eloquently just to make money? He's never actually shared any real proof, in-field videos, or information from his personal life. I'm not saying that he HAS to, there are very good reasons not to share such information on the cess-pit that is the internet. It's not that I personally don't believe him either, he isn't a malicious person to me.

My point here is that you have to be careful and check yourself when putting people on a pedestal in your mind. You don't need to be as neurotic and uncharitable for them to have to prove every little thing they say, but also don't pretend to assume everything they say as true and take it as gospel, either.

 

[Karmadhi]

3 minutes ago, Thestarguitarist14 said:

Events, private parties, the street, cafes, hiking trails and etc are way better.  Most of the women that I have dated came from netting them on the street during the day.

Talking to a girl on the street or on a cafe, what is that? Most people do not meet girls that way at all. What you describing is basically pick up lol.

 

[Thestarguitarist14]

1 hour ago, Karmadhi said:

Talking to a girl on the street or on a cafe, what is that? Most people do not meet girls that way at all. What you describing is basically pick up lol.

 

Are you a d******?

People have been meet women on the streets and in cafes since cities were made.  Were they pick up artists?

A pick up artist is someone who leaves the house and is like “I need to approach five women and get three numbers!”  I know because that was me.

I am saying you go about your life and approach women who you find attractive.  Being a pick up artist isn’t going to radically change your dating life until you also have a lot of money and hit the genetic lottery.

[mememe]

4 hours ago, Ulax said:

 

@Jacob Morres's post is very much dating related.

If you wanna sort out your inner game properly, then go and do IFS. Loving-Kindness meditation is also sick.

you don’t think irony or sarcasm is also loving kindness? if that leads to more empathy towards the op‘s question?

at least the relationship part in this section is coming too short, isn’t it?

i bet a lot of people in this section would probably need YOUR advice on that much more than i do - alongside the how to become an empath video.

i get that in some cases it’s important to get out and do the first approaches like a pua, but it’s toxic for the overall dating culture which is already dissociated and has since ever produced egoic men, no need to further the belief this would be the only true lifestyle to achieve in 21 century. mr fox.

Edited January 25, 2022 by mememe

[Karmadhi]

1 hour ago, Thestarguitarist14 said:

People have been meet women on the streets and in cafes since cities were made.  Were they pick up artists?

It is not about being a PUA or not, it is about doing cold approach or not. If you talk with a girl you do not know randomly then it is technically pick up. What you describe is PUA training which is another thing. There is no need to do that at all in such a planned manner, however a lot of people need to do that in order to practice and improve. Talking to a girl randomly in a caffee and actually doing a good job at it does not come naturally for most guys, especially in the internet and MeeToo era.

[Thestarguitarist14]

4 hours ago, Karmadhi said:

It is not about being a PUA or not, it is about doing cold approach or not. If you talk with a girl you do not know randomly then it is technically pick up. What you describe is PUA training which is another thing. There is no need to do that at all in such a planned manner, however a lot of people need to do that in order to practice and improve. Talking to a girl randomly in a caffee and actually doing a good job at it does not come naturally for most guys, especially in the internet and MeeToo era.

It’s because most guys watch porn, play video games, and eat Cheetos all day.

Edited January 25, 2022 by Thestarguitarist14

[mememe]

18 hours ago, Jacob Morres said:

How do you balance being good enough as you are but simultaneously not having yet what the opposite sex wants? It's a weird paradox I haven't solved yet 

small reminder on what he was referring to. he also said it’s about shifting jobs not having a sturdy income or attractive job at the moment (which means maybe he also wants to have a more interesting job for himself which then also might attract women or maybe a woman, he did not go into the details)

why is the question irrelevant for the answer?

Edited January 25, 2022 by mememe

[Federico del pueblo]

https://youtu.be/bmav517MQJc

 

Regarding the necessity of a great career or a lot of money to pick up girls, just watch this...

 

Edited January 25, 2022 by Federico del pueblo

[mememe]

3 hours ago, Federico del pueblo said:

https://youtu.be/bmav517MQJc

 

Regarding the necessity of a great career or a lot of money to pick up girls, just watch this...

 

very attractive footage ?????‍?

the follow up video is even better. for the guy - edited because of spoilers.

Edited January 25, 2022 by mememe

[Karmadhi]

32 minutes ago, Federico del pueblo said:

Regarding the necessity of a great career or a lot of money to pick up girls, just watch this

Amaizing shit!

Btw isn't 150 a day like 4500 a month, tax free. Looks like a lot of money to me.

Edited January 25, 2022 by Karmadhi

[Federico del pueblo]

1 hour ago, Karmadhi said:

Btw isn't 150 a day like 4500 a month, tax free. Looks like a lot of money to me.

That's what I thought lol

Maybe he should just get a job in sales haha

[Karmadhi]

1 hour ago, Federico del pueblo said:

That's what I thought lol

Maybe he should just get a job in sales haha

Exactly! He seems to have great social skills and confidence.

[Leo Gura]

8 hours ago, Thestarguitarist14 said:

18-25 is the worst for dating as a guy.  We have no advantage and don’t know shot.  25-29 is better, but we still have no leverage.  In fact, most men do not get any leverage in dating until they are 35 and they are making six figures.

Cold approaching in 2022 is not a good strategy IMO.  You can get laid, but it’s just playing the numbers game.  You are better off working on yourself as a man, networking in your city, going on, and when you meet women along the way, see them as a good time.  Me personally now I go out to dinner at a place with a nice bar on Saturday and go to another venue from there and on Saturdays I like going to events.  Speaking of which, bars and clubs are not good places to meet women.  Events, private parties, the street, cafes, hiking trails and etc are way better.  Most of the women that I have dated came from netting them on the street during the day.

This is such a bad take I don't even know where to begin correcting it.

You clearly don't understand pickup.

There is no higher odds place to get laid than a nightclub. That's why they were invented. Private parties are great, but there's just not enough of them.

[something_else]

8 hours ago, Thestarguitarist14 said:

Cold approaching in 2022 is not a good strategy IMO

 

8 hours ago, Thestarguitarist14 said:

Most of the women that I have dated came from netting them on the street during the day.

?????

[Karmadhi]

16 minutes ago, something_else said:

?????

Stop hating on daygame so much  

It is valid and legit since it is done so much.

Edited January 26, 2022 by Karmadhi

[something_else]

23 minutes ago, Karmadhi said:

Stop hating on daygame so much  

It is valid and legit since it is done so much.

That wasn't about daygame, that was about that post making no sense. Those two quotes are from the same paragraph but they contradict each other entirely

[Terell Kirby]

8 hours ago, Thestarguitarist14 said:

 In fact, most men do not get any leverage in dating until they are 35 and they are making six figures.

Guys are making six-figures way earlier than 35 years old..I'm one of them. Women don't care about your money as much as you think.

8 hours ago, Thestarguitarist14 said:

18-25 is the worst for dating as a guy. 

This is laughable.

[Thestarguitarist14]

24 minutes ago, Terell Kirby said:

Guys are making six-figures way earlier than 35 years old..I'm one of them. Women don't care about your money as much as you think.

This is laughable.

You clearly have no dating experience.