Zen Devils

[Khan 0]

11 minutes ago, Thought Art said:

@Khan 0 That’ll be up to you to grok…

Truth has nothing to do with up to me or you. Not a perspective or personal opinion or ideas. It is completely truth. That's why you must be drop or i must be dropped for enlightenment. I is absolutely truth for anyone.

Edited January 12, 2022 by Khan 0

[Terell Kirby]

1 hour ago, Fearless_Bum said:

Trusting is better in my opinion.

I can dig it. Wondering how much discipline plays a part though.

[Thought Art]

@Khan 0 lol 

“I”

hmmm, truth definitely has SOMETHING to do with you or I lol

but yeah… bla bla relative isn’t the absolute bla bla

[Carl-Richard]

Become one and transcend it.

[Thought Art]

 

[Loba]

10 hours ago, Terell Kirby said:

What controls do you have in place to prevent you from becoming a Zen Devil on the spiritual path?

I use usernames that are not serious that remind me that I can be an ass, like, I used to go by "Keyhole", but changed it because Loba fits better for where I am at.
Another account is "allmasknoclass" - it's not to degrade myself - but just to remember never to get ahead of myself.  I'm still an ego here, albeit a bit less...

I also keep stickers on my computer that say, "fight hate" "love and light" "focus" "just keep moving" "wonderful" "don't wish for it, work for it." to remind me to work harder and practice improving my character.

Zen devil is the spiritual ego, if I see it, I accept where the ego is as well - it's all just a fear of death, every manifestation of the ego.  So I focus on my death and try to feel for it in the present moment.

I also write a lot so that I can go back and see where I was at emotionally for grounding.

And if I act like a zen devil, I look into it.

[Terell Kirby]

15 minutes ago, Loba said:

I use usernames that are not serious that remind me that I can be an ass, like, I used to go by "Keyhole", but changed it because Loba fits better for where I am at.
Another account is "allmasknoclass" - it's not to degrade myself - but just to remember never to get ahead of myself.  I'm still an ego here, albeit a bit less...

I also keep stickers on my computer that say, "fight hate" "love and light" "focus" "just keep moving" "wonderful" "don't wish for it, work for it." to remind me to work harder and practice improving my character.

Zen devil is the spiritual ego, if I see it, I accept where the ego is as well - it's all just a fear of death, every manifestation of the ego.  So I focus on my death and try to feel for it in the present moment.

I also write a lot so that I can go back and see where I was at emotionally for grounding.

And if I act like a zen devil, I look into it.

So much wisdom in this. Thanks for sharing.

[Space Lizard]

I'm not sure what a Zen devil is, but it sounds pretty cool. I think I might be one.

[Khan 0]

10 hours ago, Thought Art said:

@Khan 0 lol 

“I”

hmmm, truth definitely has SOMETHING to do with you or I lol

but yeah… bla bla relative isn’t the absolute bla bla

The language of God is silence. All else is poor translation.

Rumi.

 

[Guest EmptyVase]

22 hours ago, Terell Kirby said:

What controls do you have in place to prevent you from becoming a Zen Devil on the spiritual path?

You wanna take on control? Sounds egoistic.

Edited January 13, 2022 by EmptyVase

[RickyFitts]

20 hours ago, Tim R said:

Ahh... being a bit of a devil now and then is fine ? guess who dares to pretend otherwise? 

Touché! ???

[Thought Art]

11 hours ago, Carl-Richard said:

Become one and transcend it.

Realize you are likely born and raised into a devil... then when you start the spiritual path you become a zen devil.. and a major part of the work is undeviling yourself.

First part of the work is realizing and admitting you are a devil. Then you just see more and more of how you are a devil and learn to love and transcend these aspects of yourself.

 

 

2 hours ago, Khan 0 said:

The language of God is silence. All else is poor translation.

Rumi.

 

I love Rumi, got his essential poems book here. At the same time. God is right here. Do you hear sounds?

Do you know what 'Grok' Means?

Edited January 13, 2022 by Thought Art

[Khan 0]

19 minutes ago, Thought Art said:

Do you hear sounds?

I can here the silence. Yes, you are right. God is now.

20 minutes ago, Thought Art said:

Do you know what 'Grok' Means?

I dont know.

[Wilhelm44]

No matter how awake you might be, simply notice where there's still subtle identification . . . fertile ground for devilry. 

[Khan 0]

17 minutes ago, Wilhelm44 said:

No matter how awake you might be, simply notice where there's still subtle identification . . . fertile ground for devilry. 

Of course. Dream still continues. But not ego is now dysfunctional. 

[Wilhelm44]

29 minutes ago, Khan 0 said:

Of course. Dream still continues. But not ego is now dysfunctional. 

What do you mean by: "But not ego is now dysfunctional" ?

[Khan 0]

29 minutes ago, Wilhelm44 said:

What do you mean by: "But not ego is now dysfunctional" ?

Sorry. Ego is dysfunctional now.

[Thought Art]

Realize how many mistakes you make all the time too… 

[Khan 0]

15 minutes ago, Thought Art said:

Realize how many mistakes you make all the time too… 

Do you think enlightenment has anything to do with right or wrong from human perspective? It is about forgetting all perspectives. 

[Thought Art]

@Khan 0 Zen Devils…. Enlightened people/ seekers have abused others… or misapplied teachings… especially when we are just beginning..

your making it out like zen devilry is impossible. 
 

when you realize how many mistakes you make you proceed with more humility and caution… 

Spirituality isn’t just Non-Dual awakening to absolute truth and collapsing of all dualities into loving nothingness… 

it includes human life….

Q Shaman…

Edited January 13, 2022 by Thought Art