Pfizer's Paxlovid has been approved by the FDA!

[Hardkill]

Great news! The Covid pill created by Pfizer, called Paxlovid, which is an antiviral pill that you can take home and reduces the risk of hospitalization or death by 89% for high risk patients who have been infected by COVID-19 finally got approved by the U.S. FDA today!

I am not sure if we have to wait for the CDC to give the final sign off for it before it can be used by anyone in the US who has at high risk of having a severe level of COVID after being infected by the disease. However, according to sources such as NPR "The federal government has a contract with Pfizer to buy 10 million courses of the treatment for $5.3 billion. But initial supplies of Paxlovid will be limited. The company says it will have 180,000 course of treatment ready by the end of the year."

As for whether or not this pill will work against the Omicron variant, NPR says that "Although it's not certain, Paxlovid's efficacy is unlikely to be reduced in treating people infected with the omicron variant of the coronavirus virus. The drug, which belongs to a family called protease inhibitors, doesn't target the virus's spike protein, as the vaccines do."

https://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2021/12/22/1066761436/fda-authorizes-1st-antiviral-pill-for-covid

One important caveat to taking this antiviral pill, is that it is not to be taken as a substitute at all for any of the current vaccines that protect you from this deadly virus. In order to have the very best chance of surviving COVID you still absolutely need to be fully vaccinated, boosted, wear a hospital mask indoors (ideally an N95 or higher version), and take Paxlovid (if you got infected by any COVID variant).

https://www.reuters.com/business/healthcare-pharmaceuticals/covid-19-pills-are-coming-no-substitute-vaccines-disease-experts-say-2021-11-08/

Edited December 22, 2021 by Hardkill

[Terell Kirby]

Is it more effective than the actual vaccine?

[Tim R]

The vaccines are still the most powerful weapons we have against COVID. 

Prevention is better than treatment. This is the key difference that must be understood. 

Pfizer is 95% effective in preventing infection, Moderna 94% and J&J 66%.

And all all of the above are extremely effective at preventing serious illness, hospitalization and death. 

Paxlovid (Nirmatrelvir) and Molnupiravir are what are called "antiviral drugs". They are of course extremely valuable as a further asset in our toolkit against COVID, but they are not a replacement for the vaccines (but of course, people will treat them as if they were).

If people don't get vaccinated, the pandemic will go on. And they will very, very likely be infected at some point, if not multiple times. Yes, we can treat them with antiviral medication after they got infected, but that's not the goal.

The goal is that they don't need any treatment in the first place, and that will only by achieved by getting vaccinated. 

[Leo Gura]

I wonder what it costs.

They may run out of it too given the Omicron surge coming.

[Preety_India]

Oh please it should be available around the whole world. 

 

[How to be wise]

22 minutes ago, Preety_India said:

Oh please it should be available around the whole world. 

 

Are you not in Texas? Last I remember, you mentioned that you were moving to Texas. 

[Preety_India]

33 minutes ago, How to be wise said:

Are you not in Texas? Last I remember, you mentioned that you were moving to Texas. 

I returned back from Texas long ago. 

 

[rnd]

11 hours ago, Tim R said:

If people don't get vaccinated, the pandemic will go on. And they will very, very likely be infected at some point, if not multiple times. Yes, we can treat them with antiviral medication after they got infected, but that's not the goal.

Your theory is: a) scientifically wrong b) practically wrong

a) there's no scientific theory that support the idea that mass vaccination, especially when a pandemic is going on, especially forceful, will stop it. None. However, there're scientific theories against it.

b) look at the highly vaccinated countries: Korea, Singapore, Israel, most of Europe, even US. Do you see any sing of the defeated pandemic there? No. But what do you see? Right - surge in the infections and deaths, or spikes, and entrance into toilets by QR codes.

And the fact that vaccinated now have begun to spread the virus only by themselves, for the most part.

 

Therefore, you're spreading a lie while assuming that it's the truth.

Edited December 23, 2021 by rnd

[rnd]

8 hours ago, Tim R said:

Prevention is better than treatment. This is the key difference that must be understood. 

Of course. But prevention of a dease with a low mortality rate is done by.... healthy life-style. What a surpise.

Non vaccinated people, and vaccinated too, who have no heath defects, simply don't have any issue with recovering from covid. For them it's nonthing but a flu.

If you need a vaccine to prevent covid, or if you think you do, than either there're  ALREADY problems with your health, or you've been watching and listening too much TV, news and wrong people.

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That doesn't imply that people don't die. They do. But look at the death rate. And compare it with deaths from other deases that occur and have been occuring always - cancer, diabet, yellow feaver, obesity, alcoholism, smoking... and so one.

Edited December 23, 2021 by rnd

[rnd]

17 hours ago, Hardkill said:

Great news! The Covid pill created by Pfizer, called Paxlovid, which is an antiviral pill that you can take home and reduces the risk of hospitalization or death by 89% for high risk patients who have been infected by COVID-19 finally got approved by the U.S. FDA today!

Such a pill, which among things can cure the same virus everyone is afraid about, exists for several decades already:

Ivermectin

Edited December 23, 2021 by rnd

[Leo Gura]

@rnd Do not spread misinformation here. There are no studies that show Ivermectin cures Covid.

[rnd]

@Leo Gura there's, as well practical cases. The later for sure -- Mexico, at least, in December 2020 is an example.

But you in "your current state of mind"  won't be able to see that.

Edited December 23, 2021 by rnd

[Danioover9000]

@rnd

49 minutes ago, rnd said:

Such a pill, which among things can cure the same virus everyone is afraid about, exists for several decades already:

Ivermectin

   But Ivermectin is an anti parasitic drug though...

[Hardkill]

13 hours ago, Tim R said:

The vaccines are still the most powerful weapons we have against COVID. 

Prevention is better than treatment. This is the key difference that must be understood. 

Pfizer is 95% effective in preventing infection, Moderna 94% and J&J 66%.

And all all of the above are extremely effective at preventing serious illness, hospitalization and death. 

Paxlovid (Nirmatrelvir) and Molnupiravir are what are called "antiviral drugs". They are of course extremely valuable as a further asset in our toolkit against COVID, but they are not a replacement for the vaccines (but of course, people will treat them as if they were).

If people don't get vaccinated, the pandemic will go on. And they will very, very likely be infected at some point, if not multiple times. Yes, we can treat them with antiviral medication after they got infected, but that's not the goal.

The goal is that they don't need any treatment in the first place, and that will only by achieved by getting vaccinated. 

Yeah, that's what I am saying.

 

10 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

I wonder what it costs.

They may run out of it too given the Omicron surge coming.

Yeah, I wonder about that too. Though this source says that the pill will be available at no cost: https://www.goodrx.com/conditions/covid-19/fda-pfizer-antiviral-pill

Edited December 23, 2021 by Hardkill

[Raptorsin7]

@rnd God speed

[w4read]

Not sure how many courses of treatment we would need in order to have a global impact, but if we have 180.000 by new years as the article suggest that would be three times as many as there are people hospitalized in the us at the moment, which is a good start I guess.

[Kowabunga]

Here is a very unbiased look at the new mutation in covid.  With studies.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MZngdhnXXog

[Kowabunga]

Interesting stats on the new Omicron variance... look into the data as well.  It seems unbiased.

 

[Kowabunga]

This article states also that no one under the age of 52 in the UK has died from Omicron in the UK since Dec 23rd.  Quite great news and something to look forward to normalcy. 

https://www.cnbc.com/2021/12/24/omicron-less-likely-to-cause-hospitalization-uk-government-study-says.html

Edited December 27, 2021 by Kowabunga
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[Arcangelo]

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