Experience vs reason

[Mason Riggle]

24 minutes ago, Gregory1 said:

Decartes was fundamentally wrong. It should not be: "I think, therefore I am."

Instead what's true is: "I experience, therefore I am."

Thoughts are just an experience like everything else.

 

"I experience, therefor I am."  even this language carries with it some implications of an 'I' which exists separate from 'experience', as if 'the contents of experience are evidence of an experiencer who experiences those contents'.   This duality can be collapsed, such that there is no difference between the two. Experience is evidence of itself. 

"I have no other self than the totality of [experience]" - Alan Watts.  

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"I am. Ohhhhhh.. I AM!" - Leo Gura  <---- This is an example absolute knowledge.

I am big. I am old. I am human. I am experiencing. I am having an experience. <---- These are examples of relative belief. 

Edited December 22, 2021 by Mason Riggle

[Gregory1]

19 hours ago, Mason Riggle said:

"I experience, therefor I am."  even this language carries with it some implications of an 'I' which exists separate from 'experience', as if 'the contents of experience are evidence of an experiencer who experiences those contents'.   This duality can be collapsed, such that there is no difference between the two. Experience is evidence of itself. 

"I have no other self than the totality of [experience]" - Alan Watts.  

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"I am. Ohhhhhh.. I AM!" - Leo Gura  <---- This is an example absolute knowledge.

I am big. I am old. I am human. I am experiencing. I am having an experience. <---- These are examples of relative belief. 

Experiencing is not a belief. It is a fact.

[Mason Riggle]

15 minutes ago, Gregory1 said:

Experiencing is not a belief. It is a fact.

There is the fact of experience, which can not be denied.  That there is an experiencer in addition to experience is belief. 

[Gregory1]

On 23.12.2021 at 1:09 PM, Mason Riggle said:

There is the fact of experience, which can not be denied.  That there is an experiencer in addition to experience is belief. 

Well, as long as you identify the experiencer as the experience, you don't have a problem