PsychedSubstance going through rough times, childhood trauma

[OBEler]

He tried every substance but not ibogain which is the best against opioid Addiction because it resets the receptors. 

 

He seems chaotic in his approach. Thinking that a high dose of lsd can fix this. Lol. A little Research would bring him to ibogain. 

 

Edited December 21, 2021 by OBEler

[Thought Art]

@OBEler no, he just needed to be sober, do therapy and work on his relationships. 
 

or, set reasonably mature tripping protocols 

And cut out the stuff that’s not high quality. 
 

so maybe ibogain.. but it needs more than just that. It needs intentional maturity.

Edited December 21, 2021 by Thought Art

[Loba]

Poor guy, I saw that video, too.
I hope that he is able to recover from the loss, and work through his addictions.
I like his videos and he seems like a nice person.

I think a lot of us with trauma would prefer just to trip it out; as the therapy aspect, the real work, can be even more intense.  You don't have the substance as a crutch to make it all okay.  You have to then face it head on.  Still don't have the courage to do that, so mad respect to him for having the strength to not only be honest but to be doing what he can to work through what life has given him. 

[Thought Art]

@Loba it’s counterintuitive 

[roopepa]

6 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Which is why I am even anti weed.

Have you ever tried cannabis?

I agree, you can get seriously addicted to it. And it has negative side-effects when you take too much or too often. I used to be a daily user.

It's not for mystical experiences and breakthroughs, it doesn't give insights like that. But if you are interested in a slight upgrade in creativity and general insights, cannabis can help.

My intuition tells me you could find something valuable there. For some people, it's relaxing, more like alcohol. But for some, especially if you are already creative and smart (you think a lot), it gives a boost there.

If you want to try it, take it while you are doing something, such as writing, reading or something like that. Think of it as more of a nootropic. It opens and focuses your mind, just not as much as psychedelics.

[Thought Art]

@roopepa it can give powerful insights into your life. But it’s addictive 

Edited December 21, 2021 by Thought Art

[Lyubov]

6 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Classic burning through karma.

Best of luck to him.

If you're doing psychedelics be careful not to slide into stimulants, opioids, and other narcotics. All of that will be anti this work. This is where this dude went wrong. He's blurring that sharp line with stuff like kratom, nitrous, testosterone, etc. and sliding into serious drug use. Doing psychedelics is not a license to do alcohol or other shit like that. Which is why I am even anti weed. Be clear about what is a psychedelic and what isn't. Weed, MDMA, kratom, nitrous, ketamine -- these are not proper psychedelics and they will ruin your life if you get hooked on them.

It's crucial that you are able to be happy sober. Don't use drugs to boost your mood. Psychedelics are NOT for boosting your mood, they are for insight. Observe this important distinction.

I think MDMA is better than most psychedelics for growth. I've seen tons of people have huge mushroom or dmt trips and not really make much progress but mdma made them rethink how kind they are to their family and friends. 

[Carl-Richard]

20 minutes ago, roopepa said:

Have you ever tried cannabis?

I agree, you can get seriously addicted to it. And it has negative side-effects when you take too much or too often. I used to be a daily user.

It's not for mystical experiences and breakthroughs, it doesn't give insights like that. But if you are interested in a slight upgrade in creativity and general insights, cannabis can help.

My intuition tells me you could find something valuable there. For some people, it's relaxing, more like alcohol. But for some, especially if you are already creative and smart (you think a lot), it gives a boost there.

If you want to try it, take it while you are doing something, such as writing, reading or something like that. Think of it as more of a nootropic. It opens and focuses your mind, just not as much as psychedelics.

If you're approaching cannabis like a nootropic, you're underestimating the depths of sobriety.

[ItsNick]

26 minutes ago, roopepa said:

It's not for mystical experiences and breakthroughs, it doesn't give insights like that. But if you are interested in a slight upgrade in creativity and general insights, cannabis can help.

It can be.

But at the same time I don't recommend it. I tried edible weed a couple of times and realized the potential for addiction would be worse for me than alcohol. Started with the intention to do personal and spiritual work and ended up using it because the music and porn is 10x better...

[flowboy]

8 minutes ago, ItsNick said:

It can be.

But at the same time I don't recommend it. I tried edible weed a couple of times and realized the potential for addiction would be worse for me than alcohol. Started with the intention to do personal and spiritual work and ended up using it because the music and porn is 10x better...

The honesty there...

Weed notoriously affects people very differently.

Personally, I don't need my creativity kicked up a notch, it's turned up to eleven by default.

So any little amount of weed for me means half a day of being confused, tired and mentally insane, waiting for it to wear off, swearing to never do this shit again.

Once upon a time I loved it. That's in the past now.

Edited December 21, 2021 by flowboy

[roopepa]

19 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

If you're approaching cannabis like a nootropic, you're underestimating the depths of sobriety.

I don't understand what you are saying.

[roopepa]

14 minutes ago, ItsNick said:

music and porn is 10x better...

Yup. And movies. It makes you actually laugh at comedy.

[PurpleTree]

yea i remember the guy

seems like a lovely bloke, good luck

[Carl-Richard]

4 hours ago, roopepa said:

I don't understand what you are saying.

Based on what you're saying, unless you're microdosing the stuff, I don't see how you're not constantly high. I'm saying this as an ex-stoner who has had both his mind completely deleted from it on multiple occasions and has used it merely as a morning coffee. The difference comes from how often you use it (or maybe people are just extremely different).

[Thought Art]

Sobriety is much better than being stoned and playing music feels way better. I find when I play guitar it’s like non-stop orgasm. Honestly, song writing jab better than sex in terms of sheer pleasure.

[Matt23]

2 hours ago, flowboy said:

Weed notoriously affects people very differently.

Totally.

I know some people who can smoke weed all day (or "need" it) and are like relatively fine (can hold down jobs and relationships; not saying they are super healthy, but at least they can function and get by).  

But for me, I can smoke like 2 puffs of a joint and start to feel very unstable bordering on psychosis.  Other psychedelics for me don't have that feeling.  It's hard to describe.  But weed to me tends to get me to uncomfortable places.  Like just the other day I did 1ml of CBD oil (I think it was 15mg of CBD and 0.6mg of THC) and felt it for like a day and a half. Towards the end of which I definitely wasn't feeling grounded or "together" mentally-emotionally.  My landlady says she doesn't like weed and can only handle a little bit as well. 

I wonder what it is in weed that can do this.  I've heard other people talk about it in similar ways, maybe even heard some studies pointing to cannabis as linked or triggers for things like schizophrenia and other psychoses. 

Edited December 21, 2021 by Matt23

[Thought Art]

@Matt23 I love weed. 
 

but, I’m maturing and growing out of it. It doesn’t love me. It was an abusive relationship and I don’t deal with Mary she’s a narcissist 

now it’s sober, qigong, wellness etc and the occasional infinite love here or there.

I don't smoke weed.

Edited December 21, 2021 by Thought Art

[Javfly33]

5 hours ago, OBEler said:

He tried every substance but not ibogain which is the best against opioid Addiction because it resets the receptors. 

 

He seems chaotic in his approach. Thinking that a high dose of lsd can fix this. Lol. A little Research would bring him to ibogain. 

 

Dude I dont think you need ibogaine for Kratom. A little exagerated...

[Egodeathrow]

Weed is good in my opinion if you are going into astral projection or new meditation techniques that involve moving energy /visualization. Weed has been the greatest tool for visualization I have ever found  and the closed eye visuals are highly vivid and energetic and can be even more enhanced by letting yourself slip into hypnagogia during a meditation and you can get into some seriously mindwarping nondual trances. That is just me tho, I still get weed highs that show me a new facet of consciousness or new approach to awakening/integration after 2 years of near daily use and it has consistently put me in a waking lucid dream state especially with sativa strains or edibles life just becomes clearly a dream and it is almost on par with becoming lucid in a night time dream and it can be nearly the same intensity as how that feels

[Egodeathrow]

Also I don't think Leo knows what he is missing with THC edibles, He would feel differently about THC products after trying them and sort of pulls it out of his ass as something that he can jump to as an example of something that lazy people do and in all seriousness he just is not exposed to the effects of weed and he wouldn't be able to speak about them without seeing past the way other people use and respond to the substance although I bet he would have a very clean trip maybe a bit of twistyness and visionary offshoots but I know he wouldn't just have a sit on the couch and relax high, You will have insights into infinity from angles you never knew existed from other psychedelics just because of the bodily effects being the main function on your body accompanied by a strong headspace