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A fantastic set of logic of why we are limited in are love and power.

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A fantastic set of logic of why we are limited in are love and power. This started from a question "If you act out of love to create the most love in the universe won’t you reduce the highest love possible by preventing unconscious forms from acting out evil?"

1.     Highest love allows aspect of god to do evil things in reality.

2.     In reality there is a race to do the most loving thing which creates the most love.

        a. But this can cause the reduction of evil and people can’t do evil things.

3.     But god limits you so that you can’t act out of love which prevents the prevention of unconscious forms doing evil.

4.     Thus you should do everything in you’re power to prevent evil and create love as god will allow space for evil to be carried out.

5.     And know this evil carried out is the highest love and is all experienced and not forgotten by god.

This is why we are limited. No need to slow down in the race. Also this might be wrong if you believe it is wrong then please say why. Also watch, outrageous experiments in consciousness if you are not sure what the “race” is that I am referring to.

 


Anyone who says they’re enlightened on this form in anyway is not, except me I am. 

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1 hour ago, ChrisZoZo said:

 This started from a question "If you act out of love to create the most love in the universe won’t you reduce the highest love possible by preventing unconscious forms from acting out evil?"

Notice you are creating a distinction between good/love and evil and saying "more of one means less of the other". This distinction is entirely relative to the subject of what is evil or good. (Killing is evil, for humans) This distinction is not what Love is, Love is no-distinction and it is absolute.

1 hour ago, ChrisZoZo said:

Highest love allows aspect of god to do evil things in reality.

Highest love allows/accepts absolutely everything. Good/evil are relative notion of "love" and aren't the highest love.

1 hour ago, ChrisZoZo said:

2.     In reality there is a race to do the most loving thing which creates the most love.

        a. But this can cause the reduction of evil and people can’t do evil things.

This race only exists as a thought in the mind of those who think they are racing. This race only can exist with a relative notion of love where good and evil is quantifiable. Absolute love is not quantifiable and so there's no reduction or increase of it. Racing to do good in life may happen in the presence of absolute Love, but it is not absolute Love, it is some relative activity or even life purpose someone decide to take on.

1 hour ago, ChrisZoZo said:

3.     But god limits you so that you can’t act out of love which prevents the prevention of unconscious forms doing evil.

There is absolutely no limits acting out on anyone in any way preventing anything from happening. All there is is the experience of the present moment, which is infinite and absolute love without any distinctions of things being good or evil. Limits are only a notion and they can be experienced as a notion/thought but never directly.

1 hour ago, ChrisZoZo said:

4.     Thus you should do everything in you’re power to prevent evil and create love as god will allow space for evil to be carried out.

There's absolutely no should. This life experience is absolute love and comes with no string attached. There's nothing you need to prevent and any "evil" you are trying to prevent comes from a relative notion of what you personally consider evil. If you drop all jugdements/distinctions about what is evil, you may still prevent evil (if judged from your paradigm) but this prevention would happen without thought from following feeling rather than following the idea that "evil must be prevented".

1 hour ago, ChrisZoZo said:

5.     And know this evil carried out is the highest love and is all experienced and not forgotten by god.

Yes what you consider "evil" is just a distinction you are making and is part of Consciousness/Absolute love.

1 hour ago, ChrisZoZo said:

This is why we are limited. No need to slow down in the race. Also this might be wrong if you believe it is wrong then please say why. Also watch, outrageous experiments in consciousness if you are not sure what the “race” is that I am referring to.

No, this is a story made up by ego to justify itself in this experience. But there are absolutely no ego who needs anything like a purpose or meaning of "preventing evil". The race is likewise also a story the ego creates but this time implies that his purpose also happens in a "competitive environment" (which in the context of doing good, is even more ridiculous).

This post is wrong because it's an attempt to justify "limitations" one supposedly has but there's literally no such thing as a limitation. This is just a notion that is being experienced right now. Let it go and be free.

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18 hours ago, 4201 said:

Notice you are creating a distinction between good/love and evil and saying "more of one means less of the other". This distinction is entirely relative to the subject of what is evil or good. (Killing is evil, for humans) This distinction is not what Love is, Love is no-distinction and it is absolute.

Yes there is no distinction but in the dream there is. Absolutely no relatively yes.

 

18 hours ago, 4201 said:

Highest love allows/accepts absolutely everything. Good/evil are relative notion of "love" and aren't the highest love.

The highest love does accepts and allow everything. That's why you are doing that. Also you are in the dream (as form) with a relative good and evil. IF you follow your logic then a child getting raped in front of you with you totally being able to stop and you don't is the highest love, hence the importance of both relative and absolute? 

 

19 hours ago, 4201 said:

This race only exists as a thought in the mind of those who think they are racing. This race only can exist with a relative notion of love where good and evil is quantifiable. Absolute love is not quantifiable and so there's no reduction or increase of it. Racing to do good in life may happen in the presence of absolute Love, but it is not absolute Love, it is some relative activity or even life purpose someone decide to take on.

Exactly I agree 100%. But remember the human "mind" is a creation of god. He distinctly crated which is not even true at all.  

 

19 hours ago, 4201 said:

There is absolutely no limits acting out on anyone in any way preventing anything from happening.

Really so all people can fly? If there was absolutely no limits then you would just be god and you already are so there would be no dream but there is a dream.

 

19 hours ago, 4201 said:

There's absolutely no should. This life experience is absolute love and comes with no string attached. There's nothing you need to prevent and any "evil" you are trying to prevent comes from a relative notion of what you personally consider evil. If you drop all jugdements/distinctions about what is evil, you may still prevent evil (if judged from your paradigm) but this prevention would happen without thought from following feeling rather than following the idea that "evil must be prevented".

There is no evil but relatively there is. I (with thought) love anyone or anything totally regardless of what they are doing or have done. There is absolutely no should either but relatively there is the should be what is creating the highest love in the universe.  

 

19 hours ago, 4201 said:

No, this is a story made up by ego to justify itself in this experience. But there are absolutely no ego who needs anything like a purpose or meaning of "preventing evil". The race is likewise also a story the ego creates but this time implies that his purpose also happens in a "competitive environment" (which in the context of doing good, is even more ridiculous).

This post is wrong because it's an attempt to justify "limitations" one supposedly has but there's literally no such thing as a limitation. This is just a notion that is being experienced right now. Let it go and be free.

Yes you are correct as god. But god also created this dream for himself to race as a limited forms.  


Anyone who says they’re enlightened on this form in anyway is not, except me I am. 

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53 minutes ago, ChrisZoZo said:

Really so all people can fly? If there was absolutely no limits then you would just be god and you already are so there would be no dream but there is a dream.

You are creating this notion of flying. You look at things and you judge "those things fly" and "those things don't". 

There is absolutely no limit. This include having a "notion of flying". You are not forced to have this notion or idea, it's just an idea.

If everything could fly then the notion of flying would lose it's meaning. It would be the same as if nothing could fly.

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1 hour ago, 4201 said:

You are creating this notion of flying. You look at things and you judge "those things fly" and "those things don't". 

There is absolutely no limit. This include having a "notion of flying". You are not forced to have this notion or idea, it's just an idea.

If everything could fly then the notion of flying would lose it's meaning. It would be the same as if nothing could fly.

I am saying both the absolute and the relative exist. In the absolute there is not distinction of flying but in the relative there is.   


Anyone who says they’re enlightened on this form in anyway is not, except me I am. 

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Also I must say there they are layers of how true the relative is.

top: absolute

second: what works best for the high love in this universe 

third: The ego's ideas.

Don't think I am only going for ego's Ideas. I know I can be wrong other wise I would not ask questions on this form. I want to be right in the second layer but I am not fully god.

 


Anyone who says they’re enlightened on this form in anyway is not, except me I am. 

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@ChrisZoZo  wherever there is a you or a we there will be limitation because a you or a me is finite.  

 


 

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@Inliytened1 Can you elaborate more explaining the use of this knowledge. Btw I have an absolute consciousness recognition that I am all there is. 


Anyone who says they’re enlightened on this form in anyway is not, except me I am. 

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5 minutes ago, ChrisZoZo said:

@Inliytened1 I have an absolute consciousness recognition that I am all there is. 

You as the ego or you as the "I am"?

There is a key distinction.  If you become conscious that you are all there is you would grasp what I just said..because you would realize Infinity.


 

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@Inliytened1 Sorry I understand now what you are referring to. I agree with you, the point of why we are limited was a title and the subject kind of when off course (such is my way of making points) there is many reasons why we are limited. Just like there are many reasons god created are universe.  Although i really wanted to share this line of logic thats why is was shared.

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2 minutes ago, ChrisZoZo said:

@Inliytened1 Sorry I understand now what you are referring to. I agree with you, the point of why we are limited was a title and the subject kind of when of course (such is my way of making points) there is many reasons why we are limited. Just like there are many reasons god creates are universe.  Although i really wanted to share this line of logic thats why is was shared.

 

Thanks for sharing :) I would say God limits itself in order to experience limitation 

 


 

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5 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

You as the ego or you as the "I am"?

"I am" all there is. Ego or not I am all there is. 

 


Anyone who says they’re enlightened on this form in anyway is not, except me I am. 

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Just now, ChrisZoZo said:

"I am" all there is. Ego or not I am all there is. 

 

Yes correct.  And I would say God limits itself in order to limit itself.  There is no motive behind it.  And you are God.  Reasons or motives are something the ego comes up with. 


 

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3 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

Thanks for sharing :) I would say God limits itself in order to experience limitation 

Absolutely agree or I mean I watch and copied leo's thoughts lol

 


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Just now, ChrisZoZo said:

Absolutely agree or I mean I watch and copied leo's thoughts lol

 

Did you come to that realization yourself?


 

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4 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

Yes correct.  And I would say God limits itself in order to limit itself.  There is no motive behind it.  And you are God.  Reasons or motives are something the ego comes up with. 

;)

 


Anyone who says they’re enlightened on this form in anyway is not, except me I am. 

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6 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

Did you come to that realization yourself?

can't even remember. I think I thought of it my self as I remember the time of when I thought of it and where I was. But It might just be remembering leo's point. At least in the order of logic that i was thinking at that time. 

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3 minutes ago, ChrisZoZo said:

can't even remember. I think I thought of it my self as I remember the time of when I thought of it and where I was. But It might just be remembering leo's point. At least in the order of logic that i was thinking at that time. 

Ofcourse you did.  It was a trick question.  You are all there is.   There is no distinction between you and Leo.  That's just something you dreamed up.  


 

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3 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

Ofcourse you did.  It was a trick question.  You are all there is.   there is no distinction between you and Leo.  That's just something you dreamed up.  

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnedkVrgFF0 This is you right?


Anyone who says they’re enlightened on this form in anyway is not, except me I am. 

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