Posted December 16, 2021 8 hours ago, Zedman said: @BlackMaze @BlackPhil Pathetic level of reasoning and emotional mastery. Namecalling, open ended arguments, dismissiveness and ridicule. Are you trying to figure things out or shut down the discussion? Although people on the other side are no better. Fully consumed by their position (as in the video). Is there no compromise? Is there no interest in coming together and addressing each others concerns? Nice projection. Your post really added alot of "coming together" to the discussion. Sometimes you need to call people out and shake them up abit in order to wake them up from a blunder. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 16, 2021 (edited) https://www.nature.com/articles/s41591-021-01630-0 https://www.futuremedicine.com/doi/10.2217/fvl-2021-0280 Coming out more and more about the risk of myocarditis (inflammation of the hearth muscle) among other things from the "vaccines". If you dig into the first study (and compare with other covid statistics) you will find that especially the Moderna vaccine has around double the risk of myocarditis than the virus itself for younger people, and that's only from the numbers that are out so far. Then add booster upon booster ontop of that. Sounds healthy right? A risk worth taking in order to protect yourself from a virus that's close to harmless if you're a healthy person? A protection that only seems to last a few months and is far from waterproof. Neither does it stop the spread, which we can clearly see looking at the statistics from the countries with highest amount of vaccination, so the "solidarity" argument clearly doesn't work. Where is the logics? Edit: We've had so many athletes, atleast in Europe, now with hearth problems after taking the mRNA-shots. It's up many many times the amount of previous years. Latest it was a guy in our national football/soccer team who is now on a hearth monitor and can't play. Anyways, if you want to keep injecting this stuff it's up to you. But my advice is that you atleast do some own research before, instead of blindly following authorities in the media. Btw, I'm no "anti-vaxxer" generally. Been travelling alot in my life to tropical places like the Amazon so I've been having many vaccines. These mRNA-shots got nothing to do with classic vaccines, just so you know. Edited December 16, 2021 by BlackPhil Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 16, 2021 (edited) To me this feels like the epitome and end of materialism - spiral dynamics stage orange to green paradigm shift. It's funny how people on a "spiritual" forum, fear a virus and give it this much "energy" even though there is no "material" world. The whole theory basically saying "It's not my fault that I'm sick - it's because of the virus". What happened to the concept of "100% responsibility"? Not for other people, but for your own life. I think it would really help some people to try and take another lense on this whole issue. How about using a different model that explains why people get sick? If you only have one model on a specific subject, you can't really see clearly, because you will forget that the model is just a model. Edited December 16, 2021 by BadHippie Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 16, 2021 8 minutes ago, BadHippie said: To me this feels like the epitome and end of materialism - spiral dynamics stage orange to green paradigm shift. It's funny how people on a "spiritual" forum, fear a virus and give it this much "energy" even though there is no "material" world. The whole theory basically saying "It's not my fault that I'm sick - it's because of the virus". What happened to the concept of "100% responsibility"? Not for other people, but for your own life. I think it would really help some people to try and take another lense on this whole issue. How about using a different model that explains why people get sick? If you only have one model on a specific subject, you can't really see clearly, because you will forget that the model is just a model. Good Post Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 16, 2021 19 hours ago, hoodrow trillson said: yet, your post helps with nothing at all. zero value. nothing was gained at all except time lost reading that. truly, a worse fate than a vaccine injection. yours was even worse the media loves this omicron shit, at least they have something to talk about come on pfizer work your magic, first viagra now the covid pill Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted December 16, 2021 (edited) 39 minutes ago, BadHippie said: To me this feels like the epitome and end of materialism - spiral dynamics stage orange to green paradigm shift. It's funny how people on a "spiritual" forum, fear a virus and give it this much "energy" even though there is no "material" world. The whole theory basically saying "It's not my fault that I'm sick - it's because of the virus". What happened to the concept of "100% responsibility"? Not for other people, but for your own life. I think it would really help some people to try and take another lense on this whole issue. How about using a different model that explains why people get sick? If you only have one model on a specific subject, you can't really see clearly, because you will forget that the model is just a model. Agreed with this too. Feels like many of the teachings just flew out the window the second a small survival threat to the ego showed up. Edit: Many people live in places of the world where alot more dangerous diseases are common place. I don't see these people losing it quite like alot of people do here. Edited December 16, 2021 by BlackPhil Share this post Link to post Share on other sites