Yali

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3 minutes ago, Something Funny said:

(like yours for example)

How is believing Salmon to be a health food a "dumb" belief? Any belief that isn't yours you call dumb.

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where do we draw a line

the line is arbitrary ...

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@Something Funny So is Dr. Rhonda Patrick "dumb" because she doesn't agree with your belief? Do you see how arbitrary this all is?

 

 

 

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8 minutes ago, Yali said:

@Something Funny

To believe heavy metals will give you superhuman power is a nonsensical belief to have.

And this is a judgement based on priors, similar to how "heavy metals are toxic" is a prior to the judgement of whether you should consume them or not.

 

14 minutes ago, Yali said:

we don't know if small amounts of heavy metals are toxic.

You argument is about degrees. What is your standard for whether something toxic or not? Does it have to be measureable?

 

15 minutes ago, Yali said:

if you want to eer on the side of safety, then avoid them completely. But do you really know?

Should you act on it?


Intrinsic joy is revealed in the marriage of meaning and being.

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1 minute ago, Nahm said:

@Yali

thought attachment front. 

What do you mean by thought attachment front? @Nahm

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@Carl-Richard

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What is your standard for whether something toxic or not?

The standard is arbitrary. No one truly knows.

 

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2 minutes ago, Something Funny said:

believing that heavy metals in small amounts are ok for you is dumb

You don't have proof for this. This is a belief.

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6 minutes ago, Yali said:

@Carl-Richard

The standard is arbitrary. No one truly knows.

If you act in accordance to your belief, then that is kinda pushing it less in your favor, making it more unknown, higher risk.


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4 minutes ago, Something Funny said:

@Yali just like you don't have proof that high amounts of heavy metals won't give you super powers, lol.

That's such a stupid example because high amounts of heavy metals obviously don't give you super powers.

Small amounts of heavy metals being toxic is not so obvious, yet you won't admit that.

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@Nahm

13 minutes ago, Nahm said:

@Yali

Nice work on the thought attachment front. 

thank you :)

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3 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

higher risk.

@Carl-Richard There isn't a "higher" risk. The risk of consuming trace amounts of heavy metals is unknown.

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1 minute ago, Yali said:

@Carl-Richard

The standard is arbitrary. No one truly knows.

 

Look, we dont really know anything if you take "arbitrary" as your standard. The risk of smoking, eating shitty food all the time or being stressed out of your mind is entirely arbitrary on an invidual level. I cant tell how one of these risk factors will eventually affect your life in particular, but I can do an approximation that will lead to a certain propability. You are talking in absolutes when realtiy if full of relativities,

Yes, Leo is of course wrong when he says that any amount of heavy metal will lead to net-negative consequences. Its also wrong to say "salmon is poison". Salmon is not one thing and there are immense differences in that subgroup. Simpleton thinking is happening here on both sides, and neither is willing to give a finger. 


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by protecting one dumb belief while rejecting another one, purely on personal preference. 

You calling my belief "dumb" is your personal preference.

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2 minutes ago, Something Funny said:

@Yali It will still accumulate over years and turn into a high enough dose to become an issue.

This is your belief based on your personal preference of eering on the safe side.

You don't actually know this. @Something Funny

 

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11 minutes ago, undeather said:

Salmon is not one thing and there are immense differences in that subgroup.

Me and you are in agreement. This is all I was trying to say the entire time! @undeather

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Simpleton thinking is happening here on both sides

I never said Salmon is good. I'm saying I don't know, and it probably depends on the individual.

@Something Funny won't admit that he doesn't know. He thinks he knows.

 

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5 minutes ago, Something Funny said:

The fact that heavy metals accumulate in your body

heavy metals do accumulate in the body. That's undeniable.

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heavy metals in high doses are bad for your health

Heavy metals in high doses are bad for your health. That's also undeniable.

 

 

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7 minutes ago, Something Funny said:

boosting their egos

Don't make this personal.

I'm just being skeptical. @Something Funny

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4 minutes ago, Something Funny said:

@Yali "safe" doses over decades will lead to them accumulating and reaching high enough dose to hurt you?

Because everyone is different. What a "Safe" dose might do to you over decades, might not do to me.

The point is no one knows since it varies on a individual basis. 

If you want to veer on the side of safety, then avoid it completely. But that's your personal choice.

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