I am bothered by evil entities, I’m not sure how to get help

[Nahm]

1 hour ago, Wildcattt555 said:

Do you dispute that it is obvious that the best option for the op is to seek medical advice immediately ?  Social Paranoia , evil entities, changes in weight, special powers. 

(its very obvious what this is)

I don’t find it logical or aligned, this concept of disputing opinions. Opinions are just opinions. The more the better. The bigger the variety the op may see and consider employing, the better.  Life and all opinions therein appears to me as one Big buffet. 

Obviously not all opinions make sense. Sometimes someone recommends something which is not well being oriented. But you’d have to admit, wouldn’t you, that this place is pretty damn solid. 

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In general , I would hope that a moderator for a site that encourages spiritual growth through illicit substances would be able to discern obvious mental health issues that need to be addressed by a doctor… And that there would be some sort of protocol.   That’s my only point. So that they aren’t just getting random advice from drug users claiming enlightenment.  

You lost me at ‘spiritual growth’ my friend. Those are your words. That is your opinion, your assessment. Not mine. 

Moderators have no involvement with creating or changing protocols or guidelines on this forum. Moderators moderate, implement the guidelines. 

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You’re right, your own response was compassionate. But given the nature of the site, maybe close the thread and send a message to the op would be the best option in threads like these. 

Thank you, and likewise. Appreciated. For moderators some areas are inherently grey. Then there is opinion. In the closing or not closing of threads we just basically have to ‘make a call’. My opinion is not to. I don’t care if things get ugly. Imo this leads to release and clarity. My wife jokingly nicknamed me ‘thin ice’ many years ago. She said I like to go where breakthroughs happen. 

Further, and this is just opinion and a dash of grand standing admittedly… if I could snap my fingers and make this world such that no one is ever excluded or isolated, I’da snapped em already. I’m doing what I can, exactly like you. I feel your care, I care too. I hope you feel that as well. 

@Kay100

Most of all right now, I hope you’re feelin it too. 

[Wildcattt555]

1 minute ago, Nahm said:

I don’t find it logical or aligned, this concept of disputing opinions. Opinions are just opinions. The more the better. The bigger the variety the op may see and consider employing. Life and all opinions therein appears to me as one Big buffet. 

You lost me at ‘spiritual growth’ my friend. Those are your words. That is your opinion, your assessment. Not mine. 

Moderators have no involvement with creating or changing protocols or guidelines on this forum. Moderators moderate, implement the guidelines. 

Thank you, and likewise. Appreciated. For moderators domes areas are inherently grey. Then there is opinion. In the closing of thread we just basically have to ‘make a call’. My opinion is not to. I don’t care if things get ugly. Imo this leads to release and clarity. 

Further, and this is just opinion and a dash of grand standing admittedly… if I could snap my fingers and make this world such that no one is ever excluded or isolated, I’da snapped em already. I’m doing what I can, exactly like you. I feel your care, I care too. I hope you feel that as well. 

Yes and thank you. I apologize for my earlier rudeness.  On a kind of unrelated note, but explanatory , I had a mentally Ill friend drown in his bathtub on ketamine.  So I just really hope this person doesn’t turn to drugs if they do indeed need medical help. I understand nobody here advocates for k use yet to my knowledge,  but that has always been a gripe with this site. I know Leo talks about the dangers and precautions, but for a lot of people drugs are inherently unsafe.  I just don’t want someone to say “ this is an issue that can be resolved by a trip.” Or something to that effect. You get it.  

[Nahm]

@Wildcattt555

I do indeed get it, and I am sincerely very sorry to hear of your loss. May they rest in the eternal unconditional peace of our being. 

I want to add, so to speak of course, I meditated every morning for over twenty years, ‘experienced’ cessation, and then tried psychedelics. I am not saying that is per se what I recommend, I’m just saying I do indeed get what you are saying, from a ‘place’ of direct experience, and whatever I do or don’t recommend, is just another opinion. The only teacher, the only authority ime, is our shared being, and is only found within. 

[Wildcattt555]

27 minutes ago, Nahm said:

@Wildcattt555

I do indeed get it, and I am sincerely very sorry to hear of your loss. May they rest in the eternal unconditional peace of our being. 

I want to add, so to speak of course, I meditated every morning for over twenty years, ‘experienced’ cessation, and then tried psychedelics. I am not saying that is per se what I recommend, I’m just saying I do indeed get what you are saying, from a ‘place’ of direct experience, and whatever I do or don’t recommend, is just another opinion. The only teacher, the only authority ime, is our shared being, and is only found within. 

Thank you, you are very kind.  
 

I would love to hear about your experience doing it the right way. I couldn’t use it as a tool, only a drug.  
 

[Kay100]

@Wildcattt555 yeah you are so right! I don't think I mentioned about feeling my thoughts being broadcasted outside in the air everywhere in the post above... but this is really accurate..... the psychiatrist that was helping me 10 yrs ago, he told me the feeling of thoughts being broadcasted is the typical symptom of scrizophrenia. And after I started a medication, on a low dose daily, those symptoms disappeared. I wonder how you came up with this point, I think I didn't mention it above..... 

[Kay100]

So it's a update... this morning I woke up and had a good sleep, that 'broadcasting' dissapeared... it's like peace and quiet just like how normal life was always like.... well this is one of the problem for me as well, the symptoms come and go.... I think that's one of the typical symptom of mental illness as well, the symptom come and goes.... 

I think it doesn't matter if it's spiritual or mental, the best thing to know is, the reality is that, first of all most people are mostly nice, and they are not evil like how I felt on a bad day.... so that's great to know.... if I have a bad day again, I will remember what the reality is when things are normal. It also helps a lot when I don't believe the bad thoughts on a bad day, that really helps a lot....

another point to know is, when things are normal, I get a more accurate perspective of myself. When I'm dilussional, I feel like I'm the smartest, most attractive, so everyone hates me.... but now I also need to not believe that.... because when things are normal, I can see myself more accuate.... like I think I'm ok, but like realistically, in the real world there are too many smart people... like, I heard when some people are the top in their high school, and then when they enter a really top university, suddenly they realize they are not the best anymore, too many smart people gathered there..... that's just an obvious situation to show that I guess no one can claim they are best in anyway I guess..... 

[Wildcattt555]

24 minutes ago, Kay100 said:

@Wildcattt555 yeah you are so right! I don't think I mentioned about feeling my thoughts being broadcasted outside in the air everywhere in the post above... but this is really accurate..... the psychiatrist that was helping me 10 yrs ago, he told me the feeling of thoughts being broadcasted is the typical symptom of scrizophrenia. And after I started a medication, on a low dose daily, those symptoms disappeared. I wonder how you came up with this point, I think I didn't mention it above.....   

 

24 minutes ago, Kay100 said:

@Wildcattt555 yeah you are so right! I don't think I mentioned about feeling my thoughts being broadcasted outside in the air everywhere in the post above... but this is really accurate..... the psychiatrist that was helping me 10 yrs ago, he told me the feeling of thoughts being broadcasted is the typical symptom of scrizophrenia. And after I started a medication, on a low dose daily, those symptoms disappeared. I wonder how you came up with this point, I think I didn't mention it above..... 

You briefly talked about interacting with the people on tv and the entities.     Are you still on the low dose? You don’t have to  answer here, but if you tolerated it well and it helped your symptoms, it may be a good option.   If you had a ten year gap between symptoms though , who knows.  Hope you are doing well. Glad you are feeling better today. 

Edited December 14, 2021 by Wildcattt555

[RMQualtrough]

2 hours ago, Wildcattt555 said:

Do you dispute that it is obvious that the best option for the op is to seek medical advice immediately ?  Social Paranoia , evil entities, changes in weight, special powers. 

(its very obvious what this is)
 

In general , I would hope that a moderator for a site that encourages spiritual growth through illicit substances would be able to discern obvious mental health issues that need to be addressed by a doctor… And that there would be some sort of protocol.   That’s my only point. So that they aren’t just getting random advice from people online

 

You’re right, your own response was compassionate. But given the nature of the site, maybe close the thread and send a message to the op would be the best option in threads like these.

About half of all posters go through bouts of blatant psychosis, and are told to do some useless meditations... One dude was arrested by cops flailing around on the floor because of "God" and put in an asylum.

I'm not really sure why Connor Murphy was criticized considering by the looks of things, basically the entire userbase is in the same headspace.

Leo is never psychotic but likes to stick to an ultimate truth. If someone commits or wants to commit suicide, for Leo it means nothing because death isn't real. But obviously he can't say this outright.

[Kay100]

It's been 2 days since I posted about this. So on Wednesday was quite good, but yesterday the spiritual storm started again for me. And I was like, can't get up from morning until dinner time..... so the symptom come and go for me, it's still like this.... I can describe what spiritual storm is like for me.... it feels like I'm in a atmosphere of a warzone. the wierd thing is, when this spiritual storm started for me, I hear the loud sound of airplan flying by overhead all the time, plus the wind and rain outside.... omg.... the airplan sound like the war plane..... I mean I'm not sure if here is one the air route for planes, maybe before when life felt normal for me, the air plane pass and I never noticed? anyway, yesterday it just felt like I was in the war zone..... 

The worst symptom is that, in my head there are all these different people appear in my mind, they seem want to communicate with me, but I never really know them, so can't give any reaction to those people or what their message in my mind were..... and another bad symptom is, when all these disturbing confusing images are troubling my mind, I can't really move much, especially the hands..... so these people appear in my disturbed mind, and when I move my hand I felt like somehow my hand movement can somehow hurt them, so they are in my mind and when I move my hand I feel like something like the movie Edward who had the hand of sissors.... so when he move his hands can easily hurt people..... it was something like that.... I know it's all not real but I don't want to feel like when I move my hand I'm hurting people, so all I can do is control my hand and move really slowly.... basically I wasn't doing much I can't even sit up..... my mind was too disturbed to have a normal day.... I think I totally lost  myself, like I can't find where my true self were.... 

It's funny to describe what's it like when having kind of 'psychotic' episode.... I wonder if other people who had mental issues had similar expirience? right now I can say it's definitely mental issue or if I'm disturbed by this evil entity.... I still think it's the evil entity....

Because this morning..... I woke up and felt peaceful when at home.... no war plane, no wind or rain outside..... so I thought I'm going to have a very normal day today... so then I drove to shops for groceries. I just drove and park and my family go do shopping and I wait in the car. at first I felt good and I didn't had the anxiety of thinking if there's any attention drew upon me again.... but then this island lady walked slowly by, looks like she was checking out if other shops there were open or not..... so she was moving around, and then I started to feel the tension again, it seemed like she felt something from me..... that happened a lot on Tuesday when I went out shopping by myself.... that's the day I wrote this post..... so I'm feeling like it's happening again..... later another dark skin guy walked pass and I think he got some bad vibe from me too..... so it's the same bad vibe that this evil entity that's always been sending out when I'm out about..... from their behavior I interpret that they felt the vibe that I was trying to 'hook' them or something..... and the funny thing is, if I'm in a supermarket, they always know what the next isle I'm going.... so I walk away from them, and to the next isle and they are there.... that's even more convencing like there's evil entity at work here..... it happens every time..... why do they think I was sending out those messages to them and they know where I will be next.....

So if I'm hallucinating, it's all in my head, nothing should affect other people at all.... but now it's actually sending out wrong messages to other people..... that's why I'm thinking this is evil entity and not mental issue......

anyway today it's happening again and I was trying to adjust myself, and at first I thought, ok this evil entity is playing up again, I really should think about more ways how to get it away.... actually I have tried all kinds of methods yesterday.... I played the universal mantra continuously throughout the day..... I used salt water, I used coffee, I lighted incense, I put 4 boxes around me to suck the negative energy into the box.... those all didn't work.... so this morning I was thinking, maybe try a different method or something.....

But then I thought, I should just try to center myself.... so then I tried to calm down and center myself, just that intention and slow down the breathing helped instantly.... I feel like I'm more back to myself and the negative pull lessened a lot... so I figured out it's not enough to just try ways to get it away, another important thing is to strenghten my inner self, the ability to stay cool and collected.... I think meditate should be a good way to help me increase the peace inside....

So after came home I tried the breating meditation first... but it was not easy like the beginning was good... later suddenly I got disturbed by a thought and can't continue anymore..... then I tried to hold a big black obsidian on my hand, that really helped.... like the tension were mostly gone.... so I figured out that I should hold a black crystal and then meditate, it's a lot easier..... next time I will add high vibration crystal as well, I think using the help of the crystals that has high vibration is a really good aiding tool when meditating......

So today so far I'm a lot better...... so far it's good......

[RMQualtrough]

@Kay100 It IS illness. 100000%.