Concrete question for trip sitting.

[Vynce]

After some massive awakenings, my love for consciousness became so intense that I absolutely want to share awakenings with others. But awakening is ultimately the recognition that you/I am one and if I guide someone into that realization I have to lie about that he/she is the only one conscious. 

For example if I listen to Leo's God realization video, I totally see and know that I'm the only conscious thing in the universe imagine everything existing. 

However if I stay in sleep conscious and guide someone into God realization on some psychedelic he/she doesn't get Oneness if I talk about how I AM the only thing, and how I imagine him awaken. 

So what would be appropriate in this situation?

[Dazgwny]

Vynce my good man. The mere fact your asking this question suggests to me that your missing too many aspects to be guiding anyone. Maybe work on yourself some more go deeper and realise the answer to this for yourself. There’s a separation theme to what your saying, ‘others, lie to, your conscious and they are not’. God is all simultaneously so I’m not quite sure what it is you think you’d be lying about. Leo doesn’t sit there and think he’s lying to you. He’s fully aware that you are him and vice versa, hence why he teaches other aspects of himself to help them awaken. There’s not really any lying going on. Oneness encompasses all, not just you. Maybe I’m missing your point, but that’s how I’ve interpreted it

Edited December 13, 2021 by Dazgwny

[Thought Art]

Don’t take anyone else’s mental health into your hands. People will do it in their own or not at all. IMO.

[Nahm]

Really thought this was trolling, but from looking at your other posts that isn’t your style at all. Definitely pump the brakes on this plan. Much more meat on the clarity bone around awakening etc to go before you proceed imo. Not meant personally of course. Mad respect for the inspiration & passion. I firmly feel if you give it a year or two you’ll be super glad you waited. Some bells really can’t be un-rung. 

[Inliytened1]

1 hour ago, Vynce said:

After some massive awakenings, my love for consciousness became so intense that I absolutely want to share awakenings with others. But awakening is ultimately the recognition that you/I am one and if I guide someone into that realization I have to lie about that he/she is the only one conscious. 

For example if I listen to Leo's God realization video, I totally see and know that I'm the only conscious thing in the universe imagine everything existing. 

However if I stay in sleep conscious and guide someone into God realization on some psychedelic he/she doesn't get Oneness if I talk about how I AM the only thing, and how I imagine him awaken. 

So what would be appropriate in this situation?

Your the only Being to Actually awaken because you are God.  All others are you.  You are merely imagining their awakenings and pointing them towards awakenings.  But imagination is reality...so If you have awoken you will understand that you can lucid dream right?  It's pretty much just like that.  A lucid Dreamer can also temporarily forget its a dream..hence imagination is reality.  While in a dream you wouldn't  tell a dream character they cannot awaken because you are dreaming they can.  Stay in context.

[Leo Gura]

2 hours ago, Vynce said:

if I talk about how I AM the only thing, and how I imagine him awaken. 

You must talk selflessly from his/her POV.

Rather than saying: I am God

Say: You are God.

Paradoxically, take yourself out of it. Helping someone awaken is not about you, it's about them.

Yeah... it fucks with your mind cause who are you even helping to awaken? And yet that's the game you've chosen to play.

Ironically, helping others awaken is a relative game.

[herghly]

But as God says in Conversations with God, the best way to awaken is to help someone else awaken

[Leo Gura]

There is a deeper level of awakening beyond anyone else. To be so awake there is no one left to awaken.

[Gregory1]

8 hours ago, Dazgwny said:

Vynce my good man. The mere fact your asking this question suggests to me that your missing too many aspects to be guiding anyone

This is wrong in my opinion. 

Everybody can be a guide. And Vynce showed that he deeply understands the mystery of life.

There is nothing we need more in our days, than people who help others to awaken. Everybody who has seen how beautiful awakening is will get a desire to help others, since love is the only thing that matters in existence, and since the ultimate love is giving it all to another.

[Mosess]

2 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

There is a deeper level of awakening beyond anyone else. To be so awake there is no one left to awaken.

how do you get to that?

????

just messing with you

[Thought Art]

2 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

There is a deeper level of awakening beyond anyone else. To be so awake there is no one left to awaken.

Selfish/Selfless

So selfless you are selfish

[Dazgwny]

1 hour ago, Gregory1 said:

This is wrong in my opinion

Maybe. I also might just have misinterpreted his point by the way it was framed. I don’t know. I might have my own next deeper awakening and then think well wtf was I talking about, that was a load of horse shit I spouted back then/now ?. That’s happened before so I’m open to that. Never mind. Do what ya like I suppose??‍♂️