Isint politics mental masturbation

[itachi uchiha]

Why are u all concerned about politics.isntit a waste of time.they are corrupt any way and my effort will change nothing

[Carl-Richard]

To survive, you need to know your environment, especially if you're aspiring to do something productive.

[itachi uchiha]

@Carl-Richard yes .a change in politics can get me killed.but i have no influence on it.i and everyone  will be brainwashed by propoganda and everyone is corrupt and a democracy is ruled by majority and i am in minority.modi propoganda is slowly brainwashing people to hate muslim and i can do nothing about it other than watch

Edited December 13, 2021 by itachi uchiha

[Carl-Richard]

1 hour ago, itachi uchiha said:

@Carl-Richard yes .a change in politics can get me killed.but i have no influence on it.i and everyone  will be brainwashed by propoganda and everyone is corrupt and a democracy is ruled by majority and i am in minority.modi propoganda is slowly brainwashing people to hate muslim and i can do nothing about it other than watch

Let's say you want to help people and you study to become a psychologist. You need to learn about how the healthcare system is structured, which means you have to learn about how the government works, and the government is influenced by politics. 

Let's say you work as a truck driver. You need to know about various regulations pertaining to your vehicle, the road and traffic in general, and this is tied to government and politics.

Let's say you want to buy a house. You need to learn something about how property taxes work etc., and this is politics.

This is what your environment looks like:

Everything impacts everything else. Learning about politics is not an exercise in futility.

[itachi uchiha]

@Knowledge Hoarder no man .its life and death.muslims are mass targeted.somewhere in future ,muslims will be mass targeted by modi and bjp in india.they are already brainwashing with mass propoganda

[Zedman]

I see politics as a game for power. Policies and reforms are only a justification for that game.

Real change happens culturally. Real change happens when me and you communicate like we do right now.

I would even attempt an edgy argument that Leo made more positive impact on the world than any individual politician because that is his goal. The goal of the politician on the other hand is power. And even if you get into politics with good intentions you still have to deal with the power play or you are out.

[Ulax]

Depends what area of politics you're studying, and how you're studying it.

Tbf learning systems theory would be more useful imo.

[Joel3102]

Yeah it's mostly just mental masturbation. But still good the have a more informed population 

[Tim R]

1 hour ago, itachi uchiha said:

Why are u all concerned about politics.isntit a waste of time.they are corrupt any way and my effort will change nothing

@itachi uchiha Well what do you think would happen if we didn't have politics? 

[Carl-Richard]

4 hours ago, Ulax said:

Tbf learning systems theory would be more useful imo.

You can't study systems theory without studying the actual systems. It's like trying to learn algebra before learning arithmetic.

[hoodrow trillson]

7 hours ago, Zedman said:

I see politics as a game for power. Policies and reforms are only a justification for that game.

Real change happens culturally. Real change happens when me and you communicate like we do right now.

I would even attempt an edgy argument that Leo made more positive impact on the world than any individual politician because that is his goal. The goal of the politician on the other hand is power. And even if you get into politics with good intentions you still have to deal with the power play or you are out.

Great post. 

[itachi uchiha]

12 hours ago, Zedman said:

I see politics as a game for power. Policies and reforms are only a justification for that game.

Real change happens culturally. Real change happens when me and you communicate like we do right now.

@Knowledge Hoarder 

 

Isintit better if i learn directly the knowledge of getting powerful like machiavellianism,war strategies,seduction,propoganda,manipulation,nlp,charm etc.i directly learn how to be powerful 

 

 

[Yarco]

it's possible to do politics and not just have it be mental masturbation.

but if you're just spending hundreds of hours per year debating really abstract concepts online like capitalism vs communism or not taking any real action then that's what it is

You can get involved in politics and make real meaningful change, especially at a local level. In most cities you can win a seat on city council with a couple hundred votes and have a dramatic impact on what happens in your city. Or even being parent on a school PTA I'd consider meaningful politics

[trenton]

@itachi uchiha I felt This way about politics for a pretty long time.  I learned about many different collective issues, but individually we have very little control over it.  For example, it is incredibly unlikely that a viable third party designed to get money out of politics will emerge any time soon. You can have so many good ideas, but no clear way to achieve it.

My best bet is that if you truly value justice, equality, freedom, and progress, and you really want to leave on impact on mankind by doing work that matters, then you need to make a political career for yourself.  You could for example run advertisements designed to raise public awareness of ignored issues.  A few examples include food and water poisoning and how it causes 80% of the health issues in the United States, the lack of business transparency in the global supply chain, or the prevalence of wage theft both legal and illegal.

I don't really value things like justice and equality.  It is important to admit this even if we seem selfish and mean.  I am interested in education and I am curious about what mankind would look like if some of these complex issues were resolved.  This is why I researched many different political issues until I felt that I was decently informed about the world.  I often felt powerless in the process and never went anywhere with all the research and petitions.

One point I would like to make is that understanding politics can actually be practical.  Although for the most part you are not able to make a noticeable impact, there are little changes you can make in your life based on this knowledge.

1.  80% of health issues in the United States are caused by food and water poisoning.  There may be forever chemicals in your drinking water, in the baby food, or maybe something else.  You may consider filtered water or something else to improve your health because of the fact that the FDA and EPA fabricate data about the safety of the things you put in your body.

2.  There are several methods for legalized wage theft.  One is that companies set what "full time" means rather than the state.  This is why some jobs could say full time is 60 hours rather than 40, then schedule 55-59 hours a week without paying you benefits.  Part time employees are therefore exploited by scheduling close to full time, but just barely short.  In order to discourage this practice, I pick up a few more hours for weeks on which I am scheduled 35-39 hours a week.  This is done intentionally so I don't get benefits.  Perhaps you could learn about other ways a company is exploiting your labor and getting away with it by studying politics.  I didn't tell my boss that I am doing this over legalized wage theft and I think employees all over the United States should do this as well.

3.  You might consider moving to Europe because the updated version of the FDA, less polarization, affordable healthcare, cheaper colleges, ect.  If you compare the lives of other countries to yours and find something you want, then you may consider building a better life for yourself based on these things.  I am not closed to seriously doing that.  I am not being paid what I am worth at my current job and I would not be able to afford the cost of living if I moved out.

I'm sure you could find other practical applications of politics of you look for issues in which you are a stake holder.  At the very least you could become a fact checker for when your family gets heated.  It might stop the fight, it might not.  I still had fun learning history, geography, and international conflicts with my brother.  How practical do you think it is to know that the Syrian civil war was partially motivated by a climate change induced drought?  I'll let you decide.