Mental masturbation

[Someone here]

  On 12/8/2021 at 3:11 PM, Shin said:

No it can be helpful to a certain point, but the mind tends to bullshit itself to think that his conceptualization is not mental masturbation to not get past the conceptualization threshold.

But where do you draw the line? 

[Rilles]

  On 12/9/2021 at 0:28 PM, Someone here said:

But where do you draw the line? 

The problem is trying to draw a line. Stop trying to conceptualize it and instead and feel yourself bullshitting. I swear its much more helpful, the body knows before the mind does. There is no strict category because it all depends on your personal experience and what you want to achieve.

Edited December 9, 2021 by Rilles

[Salvijus]

  On 12/9/2021 at 0:28 PM, Someone here said:

But where do you draw the line? 

There is no line. All contemplation is mental masturbation. Self-inquiry is not a contemplation, it's paying attention to yourSelf practice. It's a way to cultivate and deepen your awareness of who you are.

Edited December 9, 2021 by Salvijus

[Shin]

  On 12/9/2021 at 0:28 PM, Someone here said:

But where do you draw the line? 

It's only in retrospect that you can know when you were mental masturbating, so there is no line.