How To Let Go Of The Story?

[SOUL]

1 hour ago, VeganAwake said:

Right there aren't two individuals in disagreement, the apparent disagreement is within the statements stated....GET IT!

Good luck with your belief about what enlightenment is and entails. 

❤ 

Oh, I get it but what I absolutely get and what you think I should get according to your story are two completely different things. Maybe you will get that eventually.

[SOUL]

@Tim R  This particular social dynamic isn't exclusive to this forum and it's not just commonplace in social groups but a fixture of socialization. It takes an especially vigilant awareness to dissolve the attachment to and transcend the story no matter how acceptable or even foundational it is to the social group one is in.

Edited December 9, 2021 by SOUL

[VeganAwake]

1 hour ago, SOUL said:

Oh, I get it but what I absolutely get and what you think I should get according to your story are two completely different things. Maybe you will get that eventually.

❤ 

[SOUL]

Which brings us back to the topic of the thread... how to let go of the story?

My suggestion would be to observe in the most indirect way we can the 'story' and it's constituent parts rising up from the subconscious mind into awareness of the conscious mind but just do nothing. Don't try to resist it, erase it, negate it, replace it, explain it, retrain it or anything.

Don't react to the story in any way, I would suggest to not even give it any special attention of any kind. We will have some awareness of the story and the sensations the mind creates to call attention to it but be transparent to it's influence. Give it nothing to stick to.

Be aware that you aren't 'ignoring' it because that even implies that there is something there to ignore and turn away from. We aren't validating or invalidating it, we just don't have any re-action to it at all. This way it isn't empowered to be a source of influence in our consciousness.

Eventually the story will fade into just something that isn't a distraction from being present in the moment and awareness will simply will be free to transcend the story.

The story will be 'let go' of...by not taking hold of it.

[How to be wise]

@Rilles I recommend the work of Byron Katie. It is a self-inquiry technique.

[Breakingthewall]

1 hour ago, SOUL said:

Don't react to the story in any way, I would suggest to not even give it any special attention of any kind. We will have some awareness of the story and the sensations the mind creates to call attention to it but be transparent to it's influence. Give it nothing to stick to.

As long as you are an ego, you will be the story, and there is nothing you can do to stop considering yourself the story, except to stop being an ego.

[SOUL]

3 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

As long as you are an ego, you will be the story, and there is nothing you can do to stop considering yourself the story, except to stop being an ego.

So you are saying that as long as you continue to agree with the ego you are the story? You basically supported what I said but said it as if you don't...Did you not understand what I was saying?

Yes.... stop agreeing with the ego about the story.

Edited December 10, 2021 by SOUL

[Breakingthewall]

2 hours ago, SOUL said:

Yes.... stop agreeing with the ego about the story

You cannot let go of history because who wants to let go of it is the ego, which is history to a large extent. You can do a thousand mental tricks but history will return. to leave history you have to dissolve the ego, stop being an image in the past with a future, and completely dissolve in the present. the problem is that the one who tries to do this is the ego itself, and it cannot. The ego should disappear for that, this is the real job, not easy because is the ego itself who is doing the job

[Gidiot]

I would suggest that there is just what is. and it’s unknowable you can’t call it a conceptual framework cause that’s not what it is it’s not god, consciousness, and no self it’s just whatever is appearing to happen and that even isn’t it it’s just unspeakable I mean in the story you can try and understand it but for what end? You’ll get no closer or farther from what is. To me it seems like there only is apparent stories but no reality to them, they a seeing can arise that they never happened just like the past or future, where is it? You can only tell a story about it

[SOUL]

1 hour ago, Breakingthewall said:

You cannot let go of history because who wants to let go of it is the ego, which is history to a large extent. You can do a thousand mental tricks but history will return. to leave history you have to dissolve the ego, stop being an image in the past with a future, and completely dissolve in the present. the problem is that the one who tries to do this is the ego itself, and it cannot. The ego should disappear for that, this is the real job, not easy because is the ego itself who is doing the job

If you cannot do something it is your limiting beliefs that make it so and has no influence over what someone else can or can't do. Also all the rest of the typical forum rhetoric has been addressed by me and if you didn't even read the post you cut up to quote me let alone any of the other stuff I already covered it all with I'm not sure repeating myself will help.

Did you read this part when you cut it away?

"The story will be 'let go' of...by not taking hold of it."

To be clear any attention one gives the ego is exactly what it desires...attention...and that justifies it's identity. As many have testified on this forum about the ego it is also going to hide in the shadows undoubtedly being empowered through someone searching for it to 'dissolve'. I'm not sure the wack-a-mole method of trying to 'dissolve the ego' is the most effective.

So, this is why I suggest depriving it of what empowers it, attention. Treat the ego like the story it creates.... by doing nothing. I do not react in any way to all the mind creates to capture our attention in generating identity. That's the simple straight forward approach I use with success, no complicated or intricate techniques or methods.

Don't feed the beast...and keep on not doing anything, just be.

Although, I understand that some people think they need more stuff to do and if it works for them then so be it. I'm not going to criticize what works for them but I always suggest the simple approach first... do nothing and keep doing nothing, eventually the beast starves to death.

Edited December 10, 2021 by SOUL

[Breakingthewall]

1 hour ago, SOUL said:

To be clear any attention one gives the ego is exactly what it desires...attention.

I read everything, and I understood. what I mean is that you cannot stop paying attention to the ego, because you are the ego. you can try those things for years, it's very frustrating. they do not work. I'm talking about my experience, maybe yours is different. the strategies: don't energize the memories and they will go away. they do not work. you are the memories trying not to energize the memories. It's the frustrating insanity of self-help. maybe it's you who doesn't understand what I'm saying, it's obvious to me. dissolution has to occur. Note that I am not saying: you have to take a step back. because who would take the step is the ego! it's crazy, the dog chasing its tail. that's why only meditation and psychedelics work for me. "mechanical" methods to dissolve the ego. the "mental" methods as you do this, think the other, they do not work because they are ego 

and perhaps "dissolving the ego" is not the correct expression. It would be more to increase your level of consciousness, since the ego, the mental, is a level, a state, and if you are in that state, nothing you do within the operative mechanics of that state is going to get you out of it. that's why it's so difficult and self-help are just patches. getting out of the ego level is the key 

If  i didn't catch exactly what you wanted to explain , sorry. I think you propose actions of the ego to get rid of the ego

Edited December 10, 2021 by Breakingthewall

[SOUL]

6 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

you cannot stop paying attention to the ego, because you are the ego. you can try those things for years, it's very frustrating. they do not work. I'm talking about my experience, maybe yours is different

If you are talking about your own experience why are you projecting it onto others? It's you who cannot stop paying attention to the ego, it's you who are the ego, it's you that tried it for years, it's you who is frustrated and for you it does not work.

Although, if you cannot strop paying attention to the ego and you believe you are the ego it explains why you 'tried' those things for years, were frustrated and it didn't work. Yes, my experience is different and I wouldn't suggest it if I didn't have success with it.

If you continue to pay attention to it and believe you are the ego then I would say that wasn't what I am suggesting. Even the common forum perspective on this is we aren't the ego, it's an illusion, is very different than than so it appears your experience differs from even that.

If that works for you then so be it. Though, I suspect you are still dealing with your ego since you are still saying you are the ego.