What Are Good Self-Inquiry Questions To Ask?

[VeganAwake]

48 minutes ago, Breakingthewall said:

but this unlimited being that unfolds once the structures of the self dissolve, is in turn a self, only it is not a self that asks questions, just is.

This is what's referred to here as the spiritual ego. 

But don't take my word for it, investigate whether or not this unlimited being is real or just a new ego identification in a last-ditch-effort to avoid its demise.

❤ 

[The0Self]

15 minutes ago, VeganAwake said:

This is what's referred to here as the spiritual ego. 

But don't take my word for it, investigate whether or not this unlimited being is real or just a new ego identification in a last-ditch-effort to avoid its demise.

❤ 

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@Breakingthewall
Underneath all the layers of self, there isn’t a primordial core — It’s not that you see through your self to your true nature... the self is just seen straight through, such that it isn’t even seen.

The so-called layers of self (emotional and personal attachment, etc) seem to function to miraculously avoid facing what is most absolute, direct, and obvious: that there’s nothing else; this is everything, for no one.

Edited December 5, 2021 by The0Self

[Breakingthewall]

@VeganAwake @The0Self don't see it that way. there are no layers of ego and something underneath. the ego is a structure that gives a certain apparently shape to the substance of reality. If you erase this structure, there is absolute emptiness, nothing. but nothing is unlimited, infinite, and being so, it is absolutely everything that is possible to be, at this exact moment. and that is what we are if we erase the structures. To say that there is simply a void is an absurd nihilism, since it is obvious that the void is the ego itself and everything that exists. It is not a matter of logic but of living it. The infinity is impersonal because it is infinite, so without certain qualities, shapeless. but it exists and that is what we are, so in some way it can be said that the absolute total infinity, and that it is what we are, is a self in some way, in the sense that i am that

Edited December 5, 2021 by Breakingthewall

[The0Self]

@Breakingthewall In that sense yes, you are that — only without the you or the that. It’s not meaningfully condensable, as it’s without basis or core, and so it is and is not, and there is no it. Nor is there a not-it; not-this. That’s why being wrong about this is impossible. In other words, there is neither a case-closed, nor is there not a case-closed, nor anyone to arrive at it.

[Breakingthewall]

1 hour ago, The0Self said:

The so-called layers of self (emotional and personal attachment, etc) seem to function to miraculously avoid facing what is most absolute, direct, and obvious: that there’s nothing else; this is everything, for no one.

This is everything, but do you really see what it is? It is the infinite void giving a cry of joy absolutely wild. You have done 5meo many times, a lot of meditation. you have not opened the door of absolute emptiness and it has overflowed you with love? there's nothing, it's empty, but it's wild, it's joy, it's everything. it is an incomprehensible paradox, not simply: it is empty, there is nothing. of course there is no self in the ego sense, someone who does this or that, there is existence, and existence has a quality: love. since without him it would not exist. love is the cry of infinity when it sees itself, and I'm listening to it right now. hallelujah brothers!??

But yes, it absolutely impersonal, the death for the i that wants a better experience...but he gets a better experience, because he realizes of his illusory nature and accept his place, so he can relax and enjoy the experience

 

Edited December 5, 2021 by Breakingthewall

[Salvijus]

5 hours ago, Rilles said:

I can see how that conversation would go,

"What is is?"

"Is is what is."

"Yeah but what is it?"

"It is what it is"

"Got it."

 

Why so pessimistic? Trying to pinpoint isness does enourmous things to me. I think you'd be surprised how powerful it is if you actually tried it.

[Rilles]

3 minutes ago, Salvijus said:

Why so pessimistic? Trying to pinpoint isness does enourmous things to me. I think you'd be surprised how powerful it is if you actually tried it.

It was a joke. Sorry should have put an emoji somewhere. 

I actually love zooming into the Is-ness, its a real mindfuck. 

Edited December 5, 2021 by Rilles

[Salvijus]

2 minutes ago, Rilles said:

It was a joke. Sorry should have put an emoji somewhere. 

Ups. Sorry than ? I'm bad at jokes probably ? 

[Rilles]

6 minutes ago, Salvijus said:

Ups. Sorry than ? I'm bad at jokes probably ? 

Nah, sometimes I shoot and miss. 

[Salvijus]

@Rilles ?