Is daily meditation necessary after God realization?

[Terell Kirby]

God realization signifies the end to seeking ones true nature. For me, meditation was a vehicle to get me where I needed to go. Now that I’m here, is it really even necessary to continue daily practice?

I want to be sure .. maybe meditation after God realization is like becomes like working out at the gym .. you may have one a gold medal, but if you rest on your laurels and not maintain your body, then you’ll become a fat slob. That may not be a bad thing at the same time .. hell, you got your medal already anyway.

Just some thoughts.

Edited December 5, 2021 by Terell Kirby

[Tim R]

You think that because you've had God realization you're done with spirituality? You think you've "arrived"? 

 

[Vincent S]

God Realization is only the beginning.
Next up: God Actualization ??❤️

[Terell Kirby]

17 minutes ago, Tim R said:

You think that because you've had God realization you're done with spirituality? You think you've "arrived"? 

Well it’s not really a matter of “thinking” that I have arrived. It’s an intuitive knowing that I can’t really describe through words .. as I’m the only one conscious of it in my universe. I’m not trying to be arrogant either, this is genuine .. and I take a very humble approach to spirituality.

13 minutes ago, Vincent S said:

God Realization is only the beginning.
Next up: God Actualization ??❤️

I like this. Question is .. does actualization require the same level of practice that was needed to get to realization?

[Vincent S]

2 minutes ago, Terell Kirby said:

I like this. Question is .. does actualization require the same level of practice that was needed to get to realization?

It requires whatever You want to Create. You realized that you are and always were The Creator. Now, Create ✨??

Don’t forget your Heart and your Gut feeling along the way.

[WelcometoReality]

@Terell Kirby It depends how far you want to take things. If the realization is continual in your experience and not coming and going I see no need to continue meditation practice unless you want to take things further.

[Terell Kirby]

1 minute ago, Vincent S said:

It requires whatever You want to Create. You realized that you are and always were The Creator. Now, Create ✨??

Don’t forget your Heart and your Gut feeling along the way.

Thank you ?? 

1 minute ago, WelcometoReality said:

It depends how far you want to take things. If the realization is continual in your experience and not coming and going I see no need to continue meditation practice unless you want to take things further.

True. I would say that it isn’t always continual, especially in moments where I am gripped by fear. More practice may do well to stabilize so that it is continuous (ie. the process of God actualization).

I don’t want to close the book without taking 5meo DMT for certain…Then maybe I’ll be comfortable with stopping daily practice

[The0Self]

You didn’t arrive at the end, and I’ll just say: you absolutely don’t need to. If the final liberation is reached, “you” see through everyone and everything, including what you called “you” — your own character — not to their core, but straight through.

It is quite clear here that, contrary to what I had assumed while on the path, meditation doesn’t even matter for this. But it can certainly make your life rather blissful.

[Terell Kirby]

10 minutes ago, The0Self said:

It is quite clear here that, contrary to what I had assumed while on the path, meditation doesn’t even matter for this. But it can certainly make your life rather blissful.

Yes .. hopefully meditation now becomes something of pure enjoyment instead of a means to an end. Whether it does or not really has no meaning after things have been seen for what they are.

[WelcometoReality]

22 minutes ago, Terell Kirby said:

Thank you ?? 

True. I would say that it isn’t always continual, especially in moments where I am gripped by fear. More practice may do well to stabilize so that it is continuous (ie. the process of God actualization).

I don’t want to close the book without taking 5meo DMT for certain…Then maybe I’ll be comfortable with stopping daily practice

Yes fear is usually the last negative emotion that one has to face. Then there's a deep sense peace, stillness and love that never really leaves ones experience.

Inquiring into all negative emotions like fear and anger to dissolve identification with them is key to going further in my opinion.

[BipolarGrowth]

How’s your baseline state of consciousness doing? If you have any suffering at all, any sense of agency remaining, and aren’t at non-locality yet, you’ve got plenty of work to do. Even all of what I mentioned are baby steps compared to the full potential of a human being. 

[Terell Kirby]

1 hour ago, BipolarGrowth said:

How’s your baseline state of consciousness doing? If you have any suffering at all, any sense of agency remaining, and aren’t at non-locality yet, you’ve got plenty of work to do. Even all of what I mentioned are baby steps compared to the full potential of a human being. 

Can you expand on how you define suffering?  Relatively speaking, If you define it as the vanquishing of all human problems, that is not experienced with God realization .. nor with anything else. humans are meant to have human problems .. as long as they are finite and subject to physical death (ie. the issue of survival).

As the Buddha once said .. life IS suffering, I believe this is what he meant. Particularly in reference to the design of human life.

But from God’s POV, the real suffering ends through realizing one true nature that allows it to finally escape identification with human form .. along with having the proper perspective on the nature of reality. This has happened for me.

Edited December 5, 2021 by Terell Kirby

[RickyFitts]

3 hours ago, Terell Kirby said:

True. I would say that it isn’t always continual, especially in moments where I am gripped by fear. 

I would say that if you're still capable of being gripped by fear, then yes, you should continue to meditate, because the fear indicates something unresolved within you.

Though I think that when the awakening is abiding (ie it's not coming and going), then all of life is lived in a meditative state.

[Terell Kirby]

5 minutes ago, RickyFitts said:

I would say that if you're still capable of being gripped by fear, then yes, you should continue to meditate, because the fear indicates something unresolved within you.

Good point. We can become God realized but still have traces of ego .. fear is usually a good indicator.

[Nahm]

@Terell Kirby

Keep seeking. Keep meditating. When you’re awake, you aren’t. When you’re God consciousness, you aren’t. 

[Terell Kirby]

3 minutes ago, Nahm said:

Keep seeking. Keep meditating. When you’re awake, you aren’t. When you’re God consciousness, you aren’t. 

Not sure I understand. Would you be kind enough to expand?

[Nahm]

@Terell Kirby

The ‘claimant’ of (these) states is the ego. The ‘one’ asking is ego. The ‘one’ who wants to be sure is ego. 

[Terell Kirby]

3 minutes ago, Nahm said:

The ‘claimant’ of (these) states is the ego. The ‘one’ asking is ego. The ‘one’ who wants to be sure is ego. 

Hmm still confused. Seems as though you are calling me an ego, which you have the right to do .. but it doesn’t really address the topic at hand.

[Nahm]

@Terell Kirby

It does though. Nondual confusion is an oxymoron. The ‘one’ ‘who’ believes someone is calling that ‘one’ anything is the ego. 

[Terell Kirby]

1 minute ago, Nahm said:

It does though. Nondual confusion is an oxymoron. 

Well my confusion isn’t tied to my direct experience as God, the confusion is from the short phrases you use to get your point across .. so I try to make the best assumptions I can. No need to change anything though