I have long struggled with partys and social settings (clubs, partys etc)

[Emotionalmosquito]

@mmKay I would love it if weed did that to me, unfortunately it does the exact opposite. Very low thc high cbd strains are great though.

 

1 hour ago, mmKay said:

it showed me what it's like to socialize with absolutely 0 anxiety. The contrast was beautiful. It showed me that all that time I've been unconsciously a fish in a sea of anxiety. 

The closest thing that consistently does that for me is phenibut. Too bad you can’t use it very often. It makes me feel absolutely perfect in every single way.

 

[Lyubov]

4 hours ago, mmKay said:

Any sneaky social nootropics out there? I did go out solo on weed once few years ago ( ive smoked it like twice in my life) and I was extremely eye-opening because it showed me what it's like to socialize with absolutely 0 anxiety. The contrast was beautiful. It showed me that all that time I've been unconsciously a fish in a sea of anxiety. 
EDIT : I'm not looking to get " high ". I'm just curious what people may have come up with.

Weed has the opposite effect on me. I hate being high around people and it makes me feel paranoid. I can enter altered and mystical states to benefit myself but I do it alone. It just makes me feel too neurotic and ungrounded doing them around other people. A candle lit comfy room with nice music is for me with weed and psychs. Alcohol I think is best for socializing and also I think pure Molly as well is really good in the right setting like a rave or party. If you dose it safely and properly and can handle this state around other people (in the right mental health) it can help a ton in certain situations. Ecstasy as well which is just Molly with some meth mixed in. Basically these two can really help. It’s very easy to have some very freaky sexual experiences at a house party or rave on molly. Orgy and groups happen as well on molly. 

[Leo Gura]

5 hours ago, mmKay said:

Any sneaky social nootropics out there?

I used to game on a combo of Modafinil + coffee. It certainly boosts verbals, creativity, and energy.

But I would rather game on DMT.

[Thought Art]

Which kind of DMT 

[mmKay]

3 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

I used to game on a combo of Modafinil + coffee. It certainly boosts verbals, creativity, and energy.

I can test that. I guess you drank coffee when modafinil was wearing off? 

It's ridiculous how good coffee makes me feel. (I drink a short expresso maybe once every two weeks) it send straight up chills down my spine and goosebumps from extasy. I do get a little jittery though. 

4 hours ago, Lyubov said:

 Alcohol I think is best for socializing. 

Funny. I get stiffled and foggy from one single beer/cider. Alcohol hinders me and it makes me want me go home ( if im gaming, if im with friends Its fine cause i dont care about being sharp) 

Lsd and dmt are a litte too much for me at this point. I was considering some kind of cannabis extract vape just for science

And actually just a simple sugar rush makes me feel extatic as well. I barely ever have sugary food besides fruit.

One time I  went to the dentist and i had to get a minor surgery done but I was fasting. The doc gave me a glass of sugar water to break my fast lmfao.  But I did feel astoundingly extatic. Or maybe it was the face numbing injection. Hmm. 

 

PD : just game sober bois

[SaltyMeatballs]

20 minutes ago, mmKay said:

It's ridiculous  how good coffee makes me feel. (I drink a short expresso maybe once every two weeks) it send straight up chills down my spine and goosebumps from extasy. I do get a little jittery though.

To avoid the jitters try taking it together with L-theanine and chamomile.

[mmKay]

@SaltyMeatballs last time i took L-theanine + cofee i ended up cutting grass with a shovel at 8:30 AM, + heart palpitations. I also get them with modafinil. Looks like im sensitive to stimulants. Never heard about chamomile. I guess its some sort of tea? 

[Javfly33]

Phenibut is the best thing ever you can try to Game/socialize. Alcohol is a joke compared to It. The problem is tolerance and It hurts your stomach (its very acidic). Also the interaction with food is tricky. If you eat the wrong stuff you can have nausea/stomach issues that day. So its not sustainable. 

Actually, the best ever I've tried its Phenibut + low dose of 3-MeO-PCP. That can do an awkard social anxious incel turn for a couple of a hours into a proper player. Its fucking ridiculous how narcissistic and confident the boost of the 3-MeO gives you. But again, this is One is even more toxic than phenibut. So its cool maybe to have a couple of reference experiences But they cant be used sustainably to get good at game. 

 

Edited December 9, 2021 by Javfly33

[something_else]

1 hour ago, mmKay said:

Funny. I get stiffled and foggy from one single beer/cider. Alcohol hinders me and it makes me want me go home ( if im gaming, if im with friends Its fine cause i dont care about being sharp) 

Alcohol is processed differently in some people's bodies if you have only a little bit of it I believe. That means if you have a small amount, say a single beer or cider, it can make you feel extremely tired and lethargic but once you've had three or four you get back to the positive effects of alcohol

As is recommended you should prob learn to socialise sober but if you're super up-tight or anxious alcohol is a good way to get yourself in the mood for going out and just not giving a fuck. It also helps you not feel like a weird outsider who isn't drinking. I live in a pretty drinking-heavy culture so going out sober requires that extra bit of not giving a fuck that I don't have yet.

Although some of the other substances recommended here are quite appealing, Phenibut seems to have some amazing effects for socialising so I'm tempted to give that a try. And I've never taken Modafinil but I've heard it's just like better coffee so I'm also drawn to that

[Emotionalmosquito]

Phenibut+caffeine+CBD will set you just right as long as you have a handle on the addiction potential of the pheni.

Phenibut plus microdose is something I don’t think I’ve tried. Sounds like it would be very powerful.

An under appreciated noot is mucuna pruriens. It converts to dopamine so that’s usually pretty helpful. I’ve had good results with it.

[Thought Art]

I'd say go sober.... I don't think doing anything high is smart. Maybe a light drink or two spread throughout. Maybe something to help keep you alert if you are up late...

I have no idea why Leo would think using DMT while gaming would be wise given what I know about it.

Sober is better I think. Focus on having fun, respecting women and meeting new people. 

Growth, joy and love. And, take some healthy risks.

Edited December 9, 2021 by Thought Art

[Leo Gura]

17 hours ago, mmKay said:

I guess you drank coffee when modafinil was wearing off?

No, I would take them together.

But I don't particularly recommend it.

Sober game is where you build the most skillz.

[Girzo]

On 9.12.2021 at 11:16 PM, Thought Art said:

I have no idea why Leo would think using DMT while gaming would be wise given what I know about it.

It was a joke, I think.

But it is possible and not without a merit. The method of consumption would be a vape with dmt e-liquid and you would have to redose every 15 minutes by taking a small puff. Very risky kind of tripping, because you are constantly under influence with an ability to redose and it's super easy to overdose in that situation and have a full blown dmt trip in crowd. Not recommended. Maybe on a spiritual festival with some hippies, but not in a Vegas club. Somwhere where it would have been acceptable to have acidentally a full trip.

[Thought Art]

@Girzo it just sounds like stupidity 

[Girzo]

@Thought Art it is cool when other people are puffing with you too. Any psychedelic can be made as party or as sacred as you want it to be.

[Leo Gura]

It was not a joke.

I'm not saying you guys should do it because some you are like children.

But I have no problem gaming an obnoxiously loud club on DMT.

But I also don't need it.

[Thought Art]

14 hours ago, Girzo said:

@Thought Art it is cool when other people are puffing with you too. Any psychedelic can be made as party or as sacred as you want it to be.

I agree.

Leo, be responsible. I am sure you are but.. be safe my guy.

Edited December 11, 2021 by Thought Art

[ValiantSalvatore]

@Thought Art
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