I have long struggled with partys and social settings (clubs, partys etc)

[Thought Art]

@something_else I agree. I did more research and though it’s not clear in this guys case he was literally jump assaulting women in that area not just her. So it makes sense his sentence.
 

It should be fine.

Edited December 5, 2021 by Thought Art

[something_else]

59 minutes ago, Thought Art said:

It should be fine.

It will be fine. 99% of these cases happen when the dude is totally unaware when he's been rejected and he persists. If that's not you then you don't need to worry

[Raze]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nZ1q07WHuOs

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3uRZBocaBQY

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KCOCAZGjvJk

 

[Leo Gura]

16 hours ago, Thought Art said:

also,  I will do one or two approach nights a month starting a month or two from now. There is pretty good night life in my city, though it’s medium sized. 

Stop procrastinating and do it now. This week! Tomorrow!

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I think your pickup lines are more for a city like Vegas but, I’ll find what works here.

They aren't lines per se, it's just self-amusement in action. I didn't plan any of it.

Every major city has a rowdy nightlife where it would work. I wasn't even doing that in a club, but outside in the lobby bar. The type of bar you could find in any fancy hotel in any major city in the world.

[Mada_]

On 05/12/2021 at 3:19 PM, Thought Art said:

What are some tips for getting better at socializing at social events or loud places where groups of people drink and laugh and dance. I was at a staff party tonight and it was a lot of fun, fancy etc... I work in a pretty upper class environment.

I did dance, and I socialized with my table but I would have liked to walk up to other tables and just start talking to people but I felt like that was too awkward and scary. That I wanted to sit down, but also deeply wanted to just sit by myself.

The server was super cute... I felt like I could have made more eye contact with her. I could tell she was attracted to me. I was with her as well aha.

I have long noticed that at the end of a social party I can often feel a deep loneliness, awkwardness and out of placeness. It's a total illusion I think if I just let go and flowed. I am fun, likeable and attractive but... This has long been a sticking point.

Tips or questions?

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I've had this issue as well. When you go out, bad nights happen in my experience, but ultimately approaching people is what will build your mood. 

Just keep approaching until you're on cloud nine, and then you will just flow and feel awesome. You'll think to yourself "how am I being so smooth". 

Also like put some effort into your grooming and outfit, if you're wearing a monster energy drink t-shirt don't bother approaching a girl. 

[Mada_]

Also, Leo is dead right about being observational when opening. This is a game changer. I have undoubtedly confirmed this in my own experience. 

One of my friends was having approach anxiety, I pointed him in the direction of a girl in white linen or hemp pants and told him to tell her her pants look like they're made from weed (weed, hemp, get it? Lol so dumb ik). Like 5-10 minutes later he was making out with her. 

Throw comfort questions like "what are you studying?" out the window, and replace them with something like "you look like you study... Psychology". This will get the ball rolling so much more effectively. 

[Thought Art]

30 minutes ago, Mada_ said:

Also like put some effort into your grooming and outfit, if you're wearing a monster energy drink t-shirt don't bother approaching a girl. 

Lol, shouldn't be an issue. 

[Leo Gura]

1 hour ago, Mada_ said:

Also, Leo is dead right about being observational when opening. This is a game changer. I have undoubtedly confirmed this in my own experience.

Observation openers work so well that I've transitioned all outside-the-club openers to observational.

The key is to realize your observations don't have to make a lick of logical sense.

"Hey! Girl in the pasta dress. Stop!"

"Hey! Elf girl. Stop!"

"Hey! Girl that looks like a fishing lure. Stop!"

"Hey! Girl in lingerie dress. Stop!"

"Hey! What the fuck kind of dress is that? What do you call that thing? Where'd you find that fucking thing?"

"Hey! How many alligators did you have to kill to make those boots, girl?"

"Hey! Pocahontas-looking girl. Stop!"

"Hey! Leprechaun girl. Stop!" (she's wearing green dress) This one will take some recovery work. Apparently girls don't like being called Leprechauns.

"Hey! Lizard girl. Stop!" (she's wearing green dress) This one will take some recovery work, Lol.

"Hey! Sparkly boots. Stop!"

"Hey! Cowgirl. Stop!"

"Hey! Why are you so short?" (she's extra tall)

"Hey! Girl that looks like a disco ball. Stop!"

"Hey! Bubble-gum shoes. Stop!"

"Hey! Woolly mammoth purse girl. Stop!"

"Hey! Goldilocks girl. Stop!"

"Hey! Tinkerbell girl. Stop!"

"Hey! Gold fish girl. Stop!"

You can make up this shit endlessly. Infinite observationals

[mmKay]

14 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Leprechaun girl. Stop!" (she's wearing green dress) This one will take some recovery work. Apparently girls don't like being called Leprechauns. 

Never call a girl fat or Leprechanus, unless you're in an Irish bar and she's a redhead in a green dress ?

Has covid been a factor at all in your game for now? As in gurls being hesitant about distance or physicallity, etc. 

[Leo Gura]

5 minutes ago, mmKay said:

Never call a girl fat

Ooof! That one will get you into a world of hurt.

"Toothpick girl" also doesn't land well.

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Has covid been a factor at all in your game for now? As in gurls being hesitant about distance or physicallity, etc. 

It's not a factor in Vegas.

Other parts of the country/world it will be more of a problem.

Vegas clubs are filled like sardine cans and everyone is making out with randos. If you don't catch Covid in Vegas, you never will.

[bloomer]

@Leo Gura

20 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

Be a fucking man. But be socially calibrated and non-creepy. This was all said in a cool and calibrated way.

That’s the thing though. You’re socially calibrated and can get away with saying that goofy stuff. I tried any of those lines I’d be another Jamie Griffiths. 

Also the be a man stuff is just machismo bullshit. I can go up and say that shit to a woman but it won’t stick because I have the fear in the eyes and voice. 

I’ll stop consuming the fear porn sure but if I end up like Jamie here don’t label me as the bad guy for trying lol. But I’ll make sure not to ever touch a woman unlike that idiot. Treat them like radioactive isotopes. 

[Thought Art]

@bloomer no. Jamie Griffith was jumping out of bushes grabbing women’s boobs and asses and then running away with a smirk on his face then he played the victim card.  

Just be calibrated and go slow. Smile and have fun.

you have the intent on having a good night with these women it will come through. 
 

just don’t assault people like Jamie.

[Leo Gura]

35 minutes ago, bloomer said:

That’s the thing though. You’re socially calibrated and can get away with saying that goofy stuff.

I got socially socially calibrated by saying goofy shit.

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I tried any of those lines I’d be another Jamie Griffiths.

You don't need goofy lines. Just approach a hot girl and say, "Hey. You caught my eye. I wanted to meet you. My name is bloomer."

You need to build on foundation of just being totally fucking normal and straight.

If I am saying goofy shit, it's because I want to have fun. Not because it's necessary. I like to push myself to see how funny I can be. Sometimes my sets turn into full on comedy. It's funnier than watching an hour of standup, but I create it for myself. Why pay a comedian when you can create your own and hit on girls at the same time?

[bloomer]

@Leo Gura

8 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

I got socially socially calibrated by saying goofy shit.

Maybe I’m a pussy but saying goofy shit to women when you’re as socially retarded as me sounds like playing with fire. Throwing and catching flaming sticks doesn’t sound like my idea of fun.

9 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

You don't need goofy lines. Just approach a hot girl and say, "Hey. You caught my eye. I wanted to meet you. My name is bloomer."

You need to build on foundation of just being totally fucking normal and straight.

Maybe that’s best. I struggle with even doing that lol.

9 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Why pay a comedian when you can create your own and hit on girls at the same time?

Cause I’m a lazy unfunny fuck. Also the fire thing 

[Leo Gura]

Majority of my approaches are: "Hey, I just wanted to meet you real quick. I'm Leo."

That's the foundation for everything. The rest is spice throw into the pot to make things interesting.

If I'm saying obnoxious things it's to build up my own state and break myself out of hyper logical mode. That's my version of alcohol, since I only game sober. Well, I have gamed on DMT to be honest. It's way better than alcohol.

[bloomer]

@Leo Gura

6 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Well, I have gamed on DMT to be honest

Who were you trying to fuck? Clockwork elves. Some interdimensional pussy must be nice.

[Thought Art]

@Leo Gura games on DMT? That makes no sense to me when I think of a DMT trip..

[Rilles]

@Leo Gura I guess youre referring to 5-Meo... 

@bloomer Leo is doing game 2.0, hes tired of earthly bitches, time to pick up some extraterrestrial pussy with 3 eyes. 

Edited December 6, 2021 by Rilles

[Thought Art]

That goes against my tripping protocol… I’m too huggy… have a strict no moving or touching protocol now with any trips… unless it’s like some low dose fun with a loved one. 
 

whether is 5meo or nn… or any psych…

I recommend doing it alone or only around people who are willing and aware of what you are doing and the protocols for safety.

Edited December 6, 2021 by Thought Art

[bloomer]

@Rilles

11 minutes ago, Rilles said:

Leo is doing game 2.0, hes tired of earthly bitches, time to pick up some extraterrestrial pussy with 3 eyes. 

Damn, I wish I could get to the level of game where earthly pussy doesn’t do it for me anymore. Instead I have to travel into the fifth dimension to continue my escapades.