God is Selfish

[WokeBloke]

11 minutes ago, The0Self said:

You have no attachment to the experience of (some random person), so it does not appear for you.

You have attachment to the experience of one particular character, so it appears for you.

It's the same for every apparent individual, all of which are actually not separate. What's longed for is everything, and it's inescapable.

Can only be one person at a time. And yes all individuals are most likely connected meaning there is one indivisible individual.

[WokeBloke]

2 minutes ago, The0Self said:

All self referential tautologies with no fixed definition.

Not if I define I.

I = Aware Reality

[The0Self]

6 minutes ago, WokeBloke said:

Not if I define I.

I = Aware Reality

That character is not happening to that character. That character is that character. There's no fixed you.

You = I, yes, yet they can mean different things -- e.g.. when I am talking to you (so I and you are two separate things in that example) --  therefore they have no absolute defined characteristic other than what they really are, which is undefinable, which is all there is.

Edited December 3, 2021 by The0Self

[Nahm]

9 minutes ago, WokeBloke said:

And yet you just said I am  " I am myself. How could I care about humanity, I am humanity."

 

You refers to I

What’s being said is that there is no you, which would include that there is no you which said anything. 

The reply to which is ‘you just…’, ‘you refers to….’, or, the insistence there is a you. 

Meditation, for those with two good ears. 

[WokeBloke]

2 minutes ago, Nahm said:

What’s being said is that there is no you, which would include that there is no you which said anything. 

The reply to which is ‘you just…’, ‘you refers to….’, or, the insistence there is a you. 

Meditation, for those with two good ears. 

I refer to myself as I.

I am also the one that says there is no I (which is what you (I) are attempting to do.

You can't get rid of yourself. You only think you can.

[The0Self]

Just now, WokeBloke said:

You can't get rid of yourself

Because there's already no you. Ta da!

[WokeBloke]

Just now, The0Self said:

Because there's already no you. Ta da!

Why do you think that?

[The0Self]

3 minutes ago, WokeBloke said:

Why do you think that?

To answer as I am now I would have to use the convention "I"/"you" which means nothing. It's just what's appearing to happen. Or, it could be said, it's just obvious when it's seen.

Edited December 3, 2021 by The0Self

[Nahm]

8 minutes ago, WokeBloke said:

I refer to myself as I.

I am also the one that says there is no I (which is what you (I) are attempting to do.

You can't get rid of yourself. You only think you can.

It can be realized there is no self, no you which could be gotten rid of, no you which thinks, no thinker of thoughts. 

Freedom. 

Meditation. 

[WokeBloke]

1 minute ago, Nahm said:

It can be realized there is no self, no you which could be gotten rid of, no you which thinks, no thinker of thoughts. 

Meditation. 

it can't be realized because there's no one to realize that in your model of reality.

[Nahm]

@WokeBloke

No one is needed. There is no realizer, thinker, or seer. Notice these, in direct experience, are only thoughts. 

Could also contemplate, when there is manipulation, there is the projection of the belief in inferiority.

This is aversion. 

[The0Self]

10 minutes ago, WokeBloke said:

I refer to myself as I.

So, "I refer to I as I." Now, doesn't that sound just a little bit self referential; arbitrary; tautological?

Edited December 3, 2021 by The0Self

[WokeBloke]

3 minutes ago, The0Self said:

To answer as I am now I would have to use the convention "I"/"you" which means nothing. It's just what's appearing to happen. Or, it could be said, it's just obvious when it's seen.

Why do you think something is appearing to happen?

[The0Self]

1 minute ago, WokeBloke said:

Why do you think something is appearing to happen?

Thinking is not needed.

[WokeBloke]

Just now, The0Self said:

Thinking is not needed.

And when there are thoughts what creates the thoughts?

[The0Self]

2 minutes ago, WokeBloke said:

And when there are thoughts what creates the thoughts?

Nothing

[Gesundheit2]

Clickbait & Wordplay.

Sneaky spirituality and selflessness in disguise.

Edited December 3, 2021 by Gesundheit2

[WokeBloke]

3 minutes ago, The0Self said:

Nothing

Words do not create thoughts.

[WokeBloke]

11 minutes ago, Nahm said:

@WokeBloke

No one is needed. There is no realizer, thinker, or seer. Notice these, in direct experience, are only thoughts. 

Could also contemplate, where they’re is manipulation, there is the belief of inferiority. 

What creates the thoughts? It can't be a thought.

[Nahm]

Just now, WokeBloke said:

What creates the thoughts? It can't be a thought.

Nice! 

Meditation.