I Think I Glimpsed Something...

[Rilles]

I was trying to figure what "this" is... This reality and then I had a brief sense of "mystery". Like... The Not Knowing is the knowing... Am I on the right path? Just wanted to share. It was very cool. Its like I have been trying to box reality into being "understandable" for the past few years but then that was flipped on its head. 

Edited December 2, 2021 by Rilles

[Inliytened1]

24 minutes ago, Rilles said:

. Like... The Not Knowing is the knowing... Am I on the right path? 

Yes..you can't know reality because knowing is 2nd order to Being which is 1st order.  You can't know it because you're already Being.  So just to have to be pure Being.

[Rilles]

Just now, Inliytened1 said:

Yes..you can't know reality because knowing I'd 2nd order to Being which is 1st order.  You can't know it because you're already Being.  So just to have to be pure Being.

So I have to let go of wanting to know. Let go of the mind. Thanks! ??

[Mason Riggle]

@Rilles there is nothing you have to do which you're not already doing. 

'Just be' is paradoxical advice, because you can't 'not be'.  You're already 'being', and there's nothing else for you to do, because 'not being' isn't something you can 'do'. 

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[Carl-Richard]

The part where it starts to get creepy is when you try to understand basic things, but you literally can't. The only thing you "understand" is how insufficient "understanding" is. What you usually referred to as understanding is just simply a puny thought, coming out one at a time. It's so insignificant compared to "this."

[Rilles]

10 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

The part where it starts to get creepy is when you try to understand basic things, but you literally can't. The only thing you "understand" is how insufficient "understanding" is. What you usually referred to as understanding is just simply a puny thought, coming out one at a time. It's so insignificant compared to "this."

That sounds badass!  I have had many glimpses of "thisness" or "actuality" but they only last for a few seconds but theyre pretty intense. I feel like Im going to die on the spot. Love this shit! 

[Inliytened1]

26 minutes ago, Carl-Richard said:

The part where it starts to get creepy is when you try to understand basic things, but you literally can't. The only thing you "understand" is how insufficient "understanding" is. What you usually referred to as understanding is just simply a puny thought, coming out one at a time. It's so insignificant compared to "this."

@Rilles @Carl-Richard yeah..The question "what is isness?" Makes it crystal clear....

Try answering that one...the question "what is isness" is already issing

 

 

[BipolarGrowth]

Mystery is a good thing to notice. Now follow the Blue’s Clues. 

[Rilles]

13 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

@Rilles @Carl-Richard yeah..The question "what is isness?" Makes it crystal clear....

Try answering that one...the question "what is isness" is already issing

 

 

Words cant convey my experience but when I focus on isness all I can say is... Isness is nothing but itself... Issa mindfuck

[Shin]

1 hour ago, Rilles said:

So I have to let go of wanting to know. Let go of the mind. Thanks! ??

You can focus on wanting to know, just not conceptually.

[Inliytened1]

10 minutes ago, Shin said:

You can focus on wanting to know, just not conceptually.

That's a good way to put it

[Rilles]

24 minutes ago, Inliytened1 said:

That's a good way to put it

How can you know without conceptualizing?

[Inliytened1]

Just now, Rilles said:

How can you know without conceptualizing?

Being encompasses knowing- but knowing does not encompass Being 

[Shin]

29 minutes ago, Rilles said:

How can you know without conceptualizing?

You don't in the conventional sense of the term, you just realize what you are, and just being what you are is the "knowing".

 

[Nahm]

5 hours ago, Rilles said:

How can you know without conceptualizing?

Allowing thought activity to settle meditatively, and self inquiring directly into feeling, the “feeling of me”. Allow the concept of a ‘you’ which could ‘know’, of ‘feel’, go, meditatively, and re-inquire into the feeling ‘itself’. 

Not knowing appears as thoughts, like knowing, knowledge, concepts, etc. When the thoughts are let go meditatively, and the not knowing is directly inquired into, not knowing awakens. 

[mandyjw]

@Rilles Imagine you are listening closely for something, like you thought you heard an animal in the woods, so you stop still and listen intensely. Listen like that right now, even though there's no pressing reason. Are you knowing or not knowing?