Does the body have a body?

[WokeBloke]

Curious to hear some takes on this.

In this context let's let having mean that something belongs to something/someone.

 

If I asked does a phone have a phone then you would probably say no.

If I asked does a phone have a camera then you would probably say yes.

 

Similarly if I asked if a hand has a hand then you would probably say no.

Whereas if I asked if a hand has fingers then you would probably say yes.

 

So do bodies have bodies? 

I guess logical thinking would say no.

 

So what has a body then if not the body?

Or perhaps nothing has a body.

Perhaps the body (God) simply is all there is.

 

 

[Mosess]

no

completely

bodiless 

???

[WokeBloke]

9 minutes ago, Mosess said:

no

completely

bodiless 

???

Yet there are bodies.

I propose that you do not have a body.

You are the bodies.

 

 

[Mosess]

12 minutes ago, WokeBloke said:

Yet there are bodies.

I propose that you do not have a body.

You are the bodies.

 

 

i am you

[WokeBloke]

1 minute ago, Mosess said:

i am you

And my body is you.

 

[Mosess]

the body moves on its own

[WokeBloke]

1 minute ago, Mosess said:

the body moves on its own

Yes I am the moving bodies.

[Mosess]

@WokeBloke Well Then, i am you ❤️

How can a body contain another body, if the body is all there is?

Edited December 2, 2021 by Mosess

[WokeBloke]

3 minutes ago, Mosess said:

@WokeBloke Well Then, i am you ❤️

So what is your take on the view that we are not our bodies? Currently viewing it as delusion.

Edited December 2, 2021 by WokeBloke

[tsuki]

Actually, Spinoza used to say that the mind is the image of a body. Which is to say that the body has a body, or that the body thinks of itself and has an image of itself.

Similarly, a phone has a phone, which is the image of the phone, we conventionally call "the operating system" (android, OSX, etc). Within the operating system, various applications can exist and interact with the phone irrespective to its hardware details.

This is, basically how the illusion of separate self works, which is simply a self-image. This self-image works like an operating system for your beliefs that can target your unique existence as if just one kind of person was there.

Edited December 2, 2021 by tsuki

[Mosess]

8 minutes ago, WokeBloke said:

So what is your take on the view that we are not our bodies? Currently viewing it as delusion.

the screen you are viewing, that is the body

The confusion is one of language

[WokeBloke]

 

2 minutes ago, Mosess said:

the screen you are viewing, that is the body

The confusion is one of language

Are you saying something like the universe is my body and my physical body is part of this universal body?

As the universe I am responsible for all parts?

[Mosess]

There is only that

[WokeBloke]

1 minute ago, Mosess said:

There is only that

what does that refer to?

[Mosess]

the body

[WokeBloke]

6 minutes ago, Mosess said:

the body

Ah okay and this changes! But there are also other bodies which are also changing. 

Edited December 2, 2021 by WokeBloke

[Mosess]

8 minutes ago, WokeBloke said:

Ah okay and this changes! But there are also other bodies which are also changing. 

Yes, All is changing

[Mosess]

the screen never changes though, doesn't it

[WokeBloke]

8 hours ago, Mosess said:

the screen never changes though, doesn't it

I would say it does change.

Consciousness changes form and form changes consciousness.

I don't regard you and I as unchanging fixed beings.

[Leo Gura]

Nothing has everything.