What is vision-logic?

[Bob Seeker]

I understand this comes from Wilber, but I don’t really get what it is, simply.

Can anyone clarify?

 

[Terell Kirby]

From what I understand, it's being logical without thinking .. which is quite the paradox.

We can maybe equate it to being ultra intuitive when it comes to problem solving. Tools used for problem solving and determining cause and effect relationship is not based off of conceptual models, but elements that are present in ones direct experience at any given time.

[Danioover9000]

24 minutes ago, Terell Kirby said:

From what I understand, it's being logical without thinking .. which is quite the paradox.

We can maybe equate it to being ultra intuitive when it comes to problem solving. Tools used for problem solving and determining cause and effect relationship is not based off of conceptual models, but elements that are present in ones direct experience at any given time.

   Vision logic also involves perceiving objects and situations not just at higher scales, but also in 3d. Literally, you vision and then you logic after the vision. For example, when you solve a puzzle, most of the time you logic it far more than using other types of intelligence. However, if you have developed vision logic, you can use multi sensory visualization to map out the puzzle, and then analyse it at multiple points, and then you can find some solutions that were not originally intended to solve that particular puzzle, because you literally were sometimes viewing the problem inside and outside it's context to find those novel solutions.

[Bob Seeker]

@Danioover9000 how did you find this out? Did you read about it? Or it this more direct experience-based?

very curious as this is really cool 

[Leo Gura]

It's like what you get on a psychedelic. You can still use logic but the logic is multi-dimensional, very abstract, very intuitive, very non-linear, and very implicit.

[ZenSwift]

I was just wondering about this question haha.

[Danioover9000]

@Bob Seeker

9 hours ago, Bob Seeker said:

@Danioover9000 how did you find this out? Did you read about it? Or it this more direct experience-based?

very curious as this is really cool 

I read about from Ken Wilbur, from the internet, from many hours of me solving puzzles, and from psychedelics. I also do visualization everyday, progressively making it more difficult to do, like going from Yantras to Mandalas. That's about it, plus had past interests/hobbies like chess, videogames, drawing and drawing through objects. Fields similar to those developed my mind's eye as well.

[Bob Seeker]

@Danioover9000 Sounds like great ways to build up the skill