Joe Rogan IG Post, a Mind Infected by Ideology

[Leo Gura]

2 hours ago, Raptorsin7 said:

Whatever is currently being done by politicians and organizers is clearly not very effective.

Nothing is being done because we are too busy forestalling the collapse of democracy at the hands of right-wing idiots.

[Raptorsin7]

Just now, Leo Gura said:

Nothing is being done because we are too busy stalling the collapse of democracy at the hands of right-wing idiots.

That is true to some extent, but very incomplete and misleading. 

Was the democracy at stake from 2004-2020? There were plenty of left wing idiots in power with poor results.

There are two sides to a political equation in the United States. There is good and bad on both, this forum just likes to shine the spot light in one area and dig their heels in.

[DocWatts]

47 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Nothing is being done because we are too busy forestalling the collapse of democracy at the hands of right-wing idiots.

Any plans to do more political videos about this topic in the near future? 

Edited December 3, 2021 by DocWatts

[Leo Gura]

3 hours ago, Raptorsin7 said:

Was the democracy at stake from 2004-2020? There were plenty of left wing idiots in power with poor results.

The right wing has been holding back action for decades. Look at how much money was wasted in the Middle East.

Most of America's left wing politicians are actually moderate conservatives. And they still can't get shit passed because of far right obstruction and bullshittery.

[AdroseAkise]

1 minute ago, Leo Gura said:

Most of America's left-wing politicians are actually moderate conservatives.

What's so bizarre about American politics, is that it's unique in not having a Left Wing (major) political party. In every other country, there is a moderate right-wing Conservative/Liberal Party, and then there is a rival major Social Democratic moderate Left-Wing party. With the exception of one-party states, America serves as this bizarre exception. 

[Raptorsin7]

3 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

The right wing has been holding back action for decades. Look at how much money was wasted in the Middle East.

Yeah, this is something all right wingers have to answer for. The amount of money that could have been spent elsewhere actually developing the country is mind blowing. 

5 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Most of America's left wing politicians are actually moderate conservatives. And they still can't get shit passed because of far right obstruction and bullshittery.

I agree that a shift overall left in american politics is a good development. But there are clear blind spots that are not being addressed and that what's I want to see addressed as well

[ArcticGong]

Some perspective to how right wing a guy like Rogan appears to an American who's left it and observe it from a distance. https://youtu.be/8Q7iiS3803g

[Joel3102]

America’s democracy is actually working well, and exactly how it’s designed.

The parties reflect the will of the people. There are a lot of right wing people in the country who don’t want change so the system reflects that 

[Danioover9000]

@Joel3102

2 hours ago, Joel3102 said:

America’s democracy is actually working well, and exactly how it’s designed.

The parties reflect the will of the people. There are a lot of right wing people in the country who don’t want change so the system reflects that 

   Basically it is what it is, work with what you have.

[Joel3102]

5 minutes ago, Danioover9000 said:

@Joel3102

   Basically it is what it is, work with what you have.

Yeah progressives focus too much on 'the elites' rather than actually working to get progressive ideas more popular. Most of the country isn't progressive that's just the fact

[Opo]

3 hours ago, Joel3102 said:

America’s democracy is actually working well, and exactly how it’s designed.

The parties reflect the will of the people. There are a lot of right wing people in the country who don’t want change so the system reflects that 

Not enough to call it a healthy democracy. 

Trump won by losing 3 million votes.

It's a joke. 

[DocWatts]

3 hours ago, Joel3102 said:

America’s democracy is actually working well, and exactly how it’s designed.

If you mean it's still adhering to antiquated and undemocratic institutions that gives a rural minority far too much influence to dictate policy to the rest of the country, then yeah it's doing a bang up job.

You'd almost think this wacky system we're stuck with some two and a half centuries later was designed as a pseudo compromise with rural interests whose primary interest was preserving slavery. Oh, wait.... 

Edited December 4, 2021 by DocWatts

[Carl-Richard]

16 hours ago, AdroseAkise said:

What's so bizarre about American politics, is that it's unique in not having a Left Wing (major) political party. In every other country, there is a moderate right-wing Conservative/Liberal Party, and then there is a rival major Social Democratic moderate Left-Wing party. With the exception of one-party states, America serves as this bizarre exception. 

 

5 hours ago, DocWatts said:

If you mean it's still adhering to antiquated and undemocratic institutions that gives a rural minority far too much influence to dictate policy to the rest of the country, then yeah it's doing a bang up job.

You'd almost think this wacky system we're stuck with some two and a half centuries later was designed as a pseudo compromise with rural interests whose primary interest was preserving slavery. Oh, wait.... 

That answers that one.

[Rilles]

17 hours ago, AdroseAkise said:

What's so bizarre about American politics, is that it's unique in not having a Left Wing (major) political party. In every other country, there is a moderate right-wing Conservative/Liberal Party, and then there is a rival major Social Democratic moderate Left-Wing party. With the exception of one-party states, America serves as this bizarre exception. 

Red Scare. Basically.

[ArcticGong]

Joe criticise mainstream media a lot. I understand that people have grevience with media, but fox is actually not considered media in countries outside of the US. Joe has great guest but he not a good host.  

[Danioover9000]

@DocWatts

15 hours ago, DocWatts said:

If you mean it's still adhering to antiquated and undemocratic institutions that gives a rural minority far too much influence to dictate policy to the rest of the country, then yeah it's doing a bang up job.

You'd almost think this wacky system we're stuck with some two and a half centuries later was designed as a pseudo compromise with rural interests whose primary interest was preserving slavery. Oh, wait.... 

   First of all, I don't think it's honest to edit some user's original quote in order to attack some caricature that's not there, and exaggerated in such a way that it seems to address the political directly, when in fact the original post wasn't directly addressing the American politics, it's addressing the consciousness of some of the American politics. This is your edited quote from that user  'America's democracy is actually working well, and exactly as it's designed.'. This is the original quote below:

19 hours ago, Joel3102 said:

America’s democracy is actually working well, and exactly how it’s designed.

The parties reflect the will of the people. There are a lot of right wing people in the country who don’t want change so the system reflects that 

  As you see here, in fact both your post and his are in agreement with each other. I don't see any reason why you'd stereotype his post in such a way. Why the attack, and why the doubling down on his take? Also, how is this relevant to Joe Rogan's shit post about the political compass, when the political compass image he edited has little to do with slavery and antiquity, and more to do with the Kali Yuga? 

[Opo]

26 minutes ago, Danioover9000 said:

@DocWattsAlso, how is this relevant to Joe Rogan's post

But how is this relevant to Joe's post? 

And don't forget how is what I’m saying relevant to Joe? 

[How to be wise]

If strong men produce good times, and good times produces weak men, then it logically follows that strong men produce weak men. Will they still agree to this? 

[Danioover9000]

@How to be wise

2 minutes ago, How to be wise said:

If strong men produce good times, and good times produces weak men, then it logically follows that strong men produce weak men. Will they still agree to this? 

   If it is logically true that weak men produce bad times, and bad times produce strong men, that weak men produce strong men, then the logic is true.

[Danioover9000]

@Opo

18 minutes ago, Opo said:

But how is this relevant to Joe's post? 

And don't forget how is what I’m saying relevant to Joe? 

   Because it's inconsistent to the original post that refers to Joe's shit post about the political compass and the kali yuga. How is slavery, alt right, right wing political structures and misquoting a user relevant to the OP's original post? These branching topics are not directly addressing the original post, and because of that we end up trailing off of the main topic of this thread. Otherwise, what's the point of talking about Joe Rogan's shit post when the thread is talking about slavery, right wing ideologies? The thread then becomes like a wild west and any topics go now, therefore what's the point of discussing about the main topic when we're diverging so hard away from it?

   If any user want's to discuss branching ideas, they have to at the end of their post explain how that new branch relates to the main topic. Otherwise it's derailing the thread.

Edited December 4, 2021 by Danioover9000