I am a virgin loser and here's my questions on Leo's "How to get laid" series

[JonasVE12]

@bloomer Trying doesn't exist. Either you do or you don't. If you want succes in these areas, you have to take this dead serious and go all out. Make a commitment to do this everyday. Only if you really want to change. 

[Nahm]

12 minutes ago, Emotionalmosquito said:

You really think it would hurt her feelings that much if some rando called her mean names?

I thought hot thots had massive egos based on their beauty and could easily laugh off such insults by knowing how wrong they are. 

It’d depend on wether she held the same / similar self referential beliefs. In any case it’s hard to see it attracting. 

[Nahm]

12 minutes ago, bloomer said:

Thanks. I appreciate it. But I don't about complimenting a woman like that. It seems like women get compliments all the time. See pic related at bottom.

Not suggesting complimenting her. Suggesting you notice the thoughts which don’t feel good to you, also won’t feel good to girls. It actually doesn’t matter if you say them out loud or not (to her). By try the opposite, I meant imagine it. 

[Iesu]

@bloomer You could be so woke that you realize every 10/10 is yourself. might help a bit. 

my friend @Nahm will tell you every girl is on a table. And he cannot tell a lie 

Edited November 24, 2021 by Iesu

[Nahm]

@Iesu

Indeed. Just not all at the same time. 

[Iesu]

@Nahm the kindle for ww3 just came into my mind 

[Emotionalmosquito]

55 minutes ago, Iesu said:

will tell you every girl is on a table.

?

[Leo Gura]

6 hours ago, Whitesnow said:

@Leo Gura leo youve said that your main purpose for doing pickup was not so much about getting laid but developing yourself as a man.

Is it possible for a man to become a valuable, completely self actualized,good person without developing his skills with women?or is it a must that a man has atleast some experience with women to become a self actualized man?for example if a man was an aromantic asexual with no motivation to pursue women and his only interest is selfactualization,would you still suggest he develop his skills with women to become a self actualized man or is it unnecessary?

It will depend on what the man wants.

Obviously if you don't care about sex or intimacy then you don't need to pursue women.

Most guys need that tho.

6 hours ago, Whitesnow said:

If a mans only purpose for learning pickup is to get laid once and loose his virginity (he does not care about having sex again,just once to loose his virginity,or about developing a deep relationship with a women)do you have any qualms with him soliciting a prostitute? 

No one's goal is to get laid once. This is absurd.

I don't care who you solicit. But it won't solve anything.

[How to be wise]

10 hours ago, bloomer said:

 

How would I even go about getting a hooker? I'm not going to pick up some girl on the side of the road and I know nothing about escorting.

Jesus Christ dude, you don’t have to leave your house. There are plenty of websites on the internet (use vpn) were you can order these girls like books. They will be brought to your place.

[Shin]

A hooker will solve nothing.
I was more fucked after having sex with a hooker than before personally.

Op needs to work on his confidence, approach and discussion/funniness skills while socializing with people in general and at the same time doing pick up.

Also reading spiritual/self help teachings on the side, cause if he does just that, the potential to stay stuck and unsatisfied with relationship/sex is very high.

It's a thing that needs to be taken care of, but with a more spiritual life/less neurotics thoughts, it would be way easier to deal with.

[Iesu]

14 hours ago, Emotionalmosquito said:

You really think it would hurt her feelings that much if some rando called her mean names?

I thought hot thots had massive egos based on their beauty and could easily laugh off such insults by knowing how wrong they are. 

☠️ Bitches got bigger balls then most the men out here 

What about my hot thots that don’t have massive egos lol 

Edited November 25, 2021 by Iesu

[bloomer]

@How to be wise @Shin
 

8 hours ago, How to be wise said:

Jesus Christ dude, you don’t have to leave your house. There are plenty of websites on the internet (use vpn) were you can order these girls like books. They will be brought to your place.

7 hours ago, Shin said:

A hooker will solve nothing.
I was more fucked after having sex with a hooker than before personally.

Just sex isn’t what I’m after. I know I can buy an escort but I have no interest in that really. Though being this old and not having had sex is depressing. But I won’t do that.

Shin I’m curious how it fucked you up worse?

[stefm5]

I was exactly like you at 21. I was introverted and engaged in a religious cult. Back then i was thinking i will never taste a woman. I remained a virgin until 29. My life was constant suffering. Feeling unworthy, loser, ugly, almost hating women for not looking at me.

When i left the cult i didn't have a clue how to approach a woman. It seemed the most difficult thing in the world. What helped me to break this reality was social networks. I started engaging with people and after some time i got closer to some women just by talking to them online.

Long story short, at 44 and i'm still introverted but i've slept with many many women and the funny thing is that all of them thought that i was super experienced with girls.

So if you can't go out and approach girls, which i totally understand, just start making many friends online and the rest will follow.

[bloomer]

@Cykaaaa

53 minutes ago, Cykaaaa said:

You want to stop being a loser? Quit making excuses, stop sending memes that confirm your limiting beliefs (which are untrue) and just go fucking do it.

Obligatory loser meme below. 

53 minutes ago, Cykaaaa said:

I don't wish to be mean. But seriously. Just fucking do this shit. Don't be a slave or, as some would say, a cuck, to your mind which propels your excuses. Learn the theory, visualize yourself applying it and go actually do it in the real world. You're going to make it. You won't settle for a fearful, whiny attitude in life. You're going to be a leader and you're going to come out successful. We believe in you.

Hey I've heard far far worse and said far worse to myself lol. You can't be mean. But I will go out and try anyway. At least then if and when I fail I'll be able to say I try when I post my untrue loser memes. 

55 minutes ago, Cykaaaa said:

You're going to make it. 

Thanks man. 

[bloomer]

@stefm5

27 minutes ago, stefm5 said:

I was exactly like you at 21. I was introverted and engaged in a religious cult. Back then i was thinking i will never taste a woman. I remained a virgin until 29. My life was constant suffering. Feeling unworthy, loser, ugly, almost hating women for not looking at me.

A religious cult? That sounds interesting. Sorry to hear about your shit twenties anyway. I don't want to end up like that. 

27 minutes ago, stefm5 said:

When i left the cult i didn't have a clue how to approach a woman. It seemed the most difficult thing in the world. What helped me to break this reality was social networks. I started engaging with people and after some time i got closer to some women just by talking to them online.

Well I have been talking with a few girls online. Hasn't helped to much really.

27 minutes ago, stefm5 said:

Long story short, at 44 and i'm still introverted but i've slept with many many women and the funny thing is that all of them thought that i was super experienced with girls.

So if you can't go out and approach girls, which i totally understand, just start making many friends online and the rest will follow.

Thanks for the advice. I hope what you're saying is true.

Edited November 25, 2021 by bloomer

[Federico del pueblo]

@bloomer

It may even be helpful to not overload yourself with a lot of theory and immediately trying to be "alpha" and all this stuff.

You know, when you're already anxious, trying to do everything the correct way may just add to the anxiety and overwhelm you.

Keep it simple for some time and just get used to talking to and getting to know more people and gradually decrease your anxiety levels like this.

Then, if you wish to, you can still mesh more sophisticated techniques on top of your existing skills.

[bloomer]

@Federico del pueblo

1 hour ago, Federico del pueblo said:

@bloomer

It may even be helpful to not overload yourself with a lot of theory and immediately trying to be "alpha" and all this stuff.

You know, when you're already anxious, trying to do everything the correct way may just add to the anxiety and overwhelm you.

Good point. I'm not even going to bother trying to think about technique of theory. 

1 hour ago, Federico del pueblo said:

Keep it simple for some time and just get used to talking to and getting to know more people and gradually decrease your anxiety levels like this.

Then, if you wish to, you can still mesh more sophisticated techniques on top of your existing skills.

Will do. Simple but important point. Thanks.

[How to be wise]

@bloomer As I said, what’s important is to keep in mind that you can get laid at any time you want. You can choose when to have your virginity taken, not anybody else.

[Danioover9000]

@bloomer  Nah, I don't believe you. You are not a virgin loser. There's no such thing as a virgin loser when they're a bloomer. No way.

[Shin]

A loser wouldn't try to become a better person