If unclear on what it’s like when truth is seen, it is both simpler and more profound

[The0Self]

Rock your head from side to side lightly like a sort of hinge. It can start to happen automatically and it becomes obvious that it’s happening without a doer, kind of like auto-breathing — not surprising... What is literally unbelievably surprising, on the other hand, is that even the most complex and most (seemingly) personal actions, functions, and activities are all happening (really only appearing) completely on their own — each always with absolutely nothing separate that’s guiding/controlling it or even aware of it...

And seemingly tangential to that...

There literally isn’t anything outside of this! ?

It’s simply the infinite. It is utterly the great and perfect beyond-understanding.

When I say there’s no solidity, it’s right after I’m essentially about to say something else (that for a brief moment illusorily seems to be speakable in some way) and simultaneously unceremoniously it is clear that it simply can’t be said. So it seems there’s just no logic to ultimate reality — and no context. And ultimate reality is all there is, which is relative reality, which doesn’t exist, yet is existence, and not even that.

No, this won’t help.

No, don’t stop trying. No, don’t keep trying. No, don’t try to listen to any of this. No, not even that.

Haven’t logged-in in a while. This is just what wanted to come out apparently. Have a nice day.

 

Not that anyone would get the impression, but just in case: I’m not negating the value of meditation any more than anything else including reading this message.

Edited November 24, 2021 by The0Self

[Gidiot]

Seems like there is just a sensation of being localized inside a body but beyond that it seems like everything is happening automatically without a doer, the heart beats itself thoughts appear randomly, muscles twitch there is no centralized force doing this. To me the bullshit is claiming there is an individual in charge of all of that stuff just because there is a seeming feeling of separation, just a conspiracy cooked up. 

dont stop seeking, dont start seeking, i mean from what i just said there is no person that could help your situation anyway. 

 

whats happening is whats happening and definitely agree here 

[The0Self]

1 hour ago, Gidiot said:

dont stop seeking, dont start seeking, i mean from what i just said there is no person that could help your situation anyway. 

Or that could be in their situation, of course 

Edited November 24, 2021 by The0Self

[VeganAwake]

Yep, situations sound personal, there's just what's happening for nobody.

So simple it's complex/ so ordinary it's extraordinary.

❤ 

[BipolarGrowth]

“Yeah you hit the nail on the head. By the way, OUCH!” - The Nail of Emptiness

Edited November 25, 2021 by BipolarGrowth