Posted November 16, 2021 Would like to hear some opinions on this: Cause - A word to refer to something responsible for an effect. Effect - A noticeable happening Every effect has a cause Every cause produces an effect Now I think it is reasonable to claim that every effect has a cause. Ex. The cause of this post is the body that wrote this post. If there is a cause for everything in this universe then the question can be asked what causes all causes? Or where do causes come from? What is your take on this? Must there be an ultimate cause for all causes? If so, we could refer to that as the uncaused causer since it is the origin of all causes and effects. Could such a thing exist or is it illogical. Is the uncaused causer the single subject/God of this universe? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 16, 2021 (edited) @WokeBloke it helps to understand that 'everything' is the cause of 'everything else'... and where you draw the line between 'everything' and 'everything else' is arbitrary. When we try to nail down 'the cause' of something, we find that there is an infinite regress of 'cause'. Consider.. if I train a dog to bite a child, and it does.. what caused the bite? Me or the dog? If my dad taught me to train dogs to bite children, and they do, what caused the biting? The dog, me, or my dad? and on and on we go.. When we say 'the dog caused the bite'.. this is a 'proximate cause'. The dog is 'closer in proximity' to the bite than my dad. It's also very difficult for many, to wrap their minds around the notion of 'eternity'. The notion that 'existence' always 'existed' and always will exist, eternally.. and therefor has no 'first cause' or 'last event', etc. Edited November 16, 2021 by Mason Riggle "I could be the walrus. I'd still have to bum rides off people." Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 16, 2021 @WokeBloke Thank you for sharing you contemplations. I really enjoy reading them! ? Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted November 16, 2021 Why are you starting a duplicate thread? You already posted in this one: Intrinsic joy is revealed in the marriage of meaning and being. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites