A problem with Leo’s explanation of god?

[johnlocke18]

@Leo Gura I’ll simplify one more time, if I can perceive something is evil then that means it exists real or not. Meaning that not everything is infinite love (affection or pleasure by definition.) You didn’t address that, you just pointed out I’m imagining it which I already acknowledged in the op. 

Edited November 10, 2021 by johnlocke18

[JuliusCaesar]

1 minute ago, johnlocke18 said:

@JuliusCaesar I said whether evil is objective or subjective, it’s apart of everything. Meaning not everything is good. And neither you or Leo addressed that without putting words in my mouth. 

I'm not aware that I "put words in your mouth". At any rate, the error in your reasoning is the assumption good and evil are mutually exclusive. That they can't be one and the same, or more precisely that they can't both be good. But in fact they are. If you become conscious enough you'd know this firsthand. It's not logical, but it's true.

[johnlocke18]

@JuliusCaesar You said that I’m arguing objective evil exists, when I only said it exists subjectively, meaning it’s apart of everything. So, yes you put words in my mouth. Either you mean all good or you don’t, and if I can perceive evil then it exists, illusory or not. So that means not everything is good.

[johnlocke18]

@JuliusCaesar You’re still not arguing my point. Now you’re just saying I’m not conscious enough, okay, well since I can perceive something as evil that means it exists, illusory or not. Meaning it’s apart of everything, meaning not everything is good. 

[JuliusCaesar]

1 minute ago, johnlocke18 said:

@JuliusCaesar You said that I’m arguing objective evil exists, when I only said it exists subjectively, meaning it’s apart of everything. So, yes you put words in my mouth. Either you mean all good or you don’t, and if I can perceive evil then it exists, illusory or not. So that means not everything is good.

But evil is good, that's what you're missing. I haven't been putting words in your mouth at all(an accusation for which you've not provided any evidence).

[johnlocke18]

@BenG Lol love means affection or pleasure by definition and either you mean everything is that or you’re not saying what you mean. 

[johnlocke18]

@JuliusCaesar Evil is good? No they have different definitions so you’re just not saying what you mean. Are you trying to say everything is secretly good and we experience a vail of other things over it? If so, then say that. Don’t blame me and make it out like I’m deluded when you don’t say what you mean. The problem here is Leo and you guys use the wrong words to explain what you mean, and then blame everyone else for not understanding you.