Femininity isn't a weakness

[Random witch]

-Vulnerability isn't a weakness, it requires so much courage to be vulnerable. It's a huge risk taking, especially in our society.

-Authenticity is not a weakness, one needs to be so brave in order to be authentic. One has to be so commited to choose authenticity every single day.

-Creativity isn't a weakness, creating something from nothing is a power of God. 

-Empathy isn't a weakness, in order to be able to empathize with someone eles you have to be so open-minded and so open emotionaly to feel someone else's suffer as if it's your own suffer. It requires so much mental power and strength.

-Forgivness isn't a weakness, anyone who sees forgiveness as a weakness is unaware to how much mental resources required in order to forgive.

-Nurting isn't a weakness, one who can take care of himself and his sorraundings is the one who has the healthiest and happiest life. 

 

What is weakness?

-Weakness is to manipulate women into sex.

-Weakness is to brag about how good you at fucking women. 

-Weakness is to see the social injustice against women and do nothing about it.

-Weakness is hiring prostitues.

-Weakness is to demonize feminism, ignoring the fact that without feminism most of the men won't bother themselves to fight for woman's status in society. 

-Weakness is to see women as objects before seeing them as human beings.

-Weakness is to have shitty personality and no social skills, do nothing about it and expecting women to pursue you.

-Weakness is to judge women by her sexsual history and be paranoid about it.

-Weakness is to talk to women only for the chance to get laid.

-Weakness is to act as if you know women better than they know themselves.

-Weaknesses is gaslighting women about their opinions, feelings and reality perception.

-Weakness is focusing on criticizing women who you're not attracted to.

-Weakness is avoiding, demonising, blaming, attacking a woman just because she's more intelligent than you or just because you're envy her.

-Weakness is to see women as weaker than you, dumber than you, more irrational than you just because they were born as females.

 

-Weakness is to be blind on purpose to the social morall crimes against women and telling stories and exucuises to justify those morall crimes.

 

This was my 50 cent for today.

If I were to visit his candy shop, be sure that there's no chance for this shop to exist at all. I won't suck it but burn it or cut it with a knife.

Nothing personal against 50 cent but against the toxic masculinity and sexism. 

 

 

 

 

Edited November 10, 2021 by Random witch

[tsuki]

By fighting war, you perpetuate it.

[zazen]

To add to this thread. Quote:

 ''The worst men take on traits of the negative feminine, and the best women take on traits of the positive masculine, whilst the best men take on traits of the positive feminine, and the worst women take on the traits of the negative masculine.

Men with negative feminine traits are petty, scheming and entitled. Men with positive feminine traits know gentleness and nurturing. Women with negative masculine traits become willful and arrogant. Women with positive masculine traits use logic and hold themselves accountable.

Whilst it is a woman's nature to view things emotionally, a highly developed woman can engage reason to act with more fairness. Whilst it is a man's nature to view things practically, a highly developed man can engage compassion to tend to the pressing emotional needs of others.

The highly developed woman who can engage reason will never be as logical as the typical man, but she is more so than her sisters. The highly developed man who can engage compassion will never be as emotionally sensitive as the typical woman, but he is more so than his brothers.

A woman without emotion would cease to be a woman, and therefore we would not want her to be completely rational, in much the way a man who is very emotional would become too meek, and therefore cease to be a man. Neither's consumed by the other. They possess a helpful fraction.

A man who complains women aren't logical enough would not be attracted to a cold logical woman devoid of feminine warmth, in much the way a woman who complains men are too unemotional would not be attracted to a fragile, easily upset sensitive man devoid of male stoicism.

The optimal balances or ratios are thus something akin to the pareto principle, with your core nature comprising 80% of what you are, whilst the learned positive attributes of the opposite sex that did not come naturally to you comprise the remaining 20%.''

Edited November 10, 2021 by zazen

[Jacob Morres]

the shaming part of your post is your unconscious masculine, unironically

divine masculine is non-judgmental 

Edited November 10, 2021 by Jacob Morres

[gettoefl]

damn straight @Random witch and @zazen

appreciate you both x

[something_else]

Well said. Men should embrace a lot of these feminine traits. Many men in the world express these negative masculine traits because of our fairly masculine-focused culture which accepts these negative traits far more than it should

Though there are plenty of positive masculine traits as well. And plenty of negative feminine ones. It isn't so one sided

Edited November 10, 2021 by something_else

[zazen]

From what I can observe in society men are actually lacking positive masculinity or masculinity at all. Where can boys learn about masculinity when broken homes lead to single parent households of mostly mothers, then the education system where teachers are mostly women (70%), then the culture which is more feminised and about inclusivity, compassion etc which is good to an extent although lacking positive masculinity becomes imbalanced. In fact masculinity as a whole is looked down upon or called toxic now, leading boys to be confused and hate their own nature rather than embrace its positive side and work on integrating its shadow side, its nuanced. 

 

Weak masculinity leads to women feeling more insecure and needing to step in and embrace masculine traits for survival. If not done in a balanced way this is at the expense of their femininity which is what men are attracted to, leading men to be unwilling to commit to women for they offer no more than just sex, which leads to women further having to survive solo, leading to more masculine traits to be embraced, leading to further imbalance. There is great nuance/awareness needed in todays world to balance the polarities for both men and women. 

 

What we see now is weak men, and the ones who are strong and get the limelight are strong in the negative masculine ie jerks / bad boys. The girls gravitate towards them sexually which leads other men to want to be emulate those negative masculine traits, and pop culture / music only confirms this further. The negative masculine is strength in its negative form but is still strength and so gains some attraction / recognition compared to a meek nice guys lacking any strength at all. This is the obsession with heroes and the rise of marvel / dc movies, the positive masculine is greatly lacking and we are starving for it now more than ever. 

Edited November 10, 2021 by zazen

[gettoefl]

3 minutes ago, zazen said:

From what I can observe in society men are actually lacking positive masculinity or masculinity at all. Where can boys learn about masculinity when broken homes lead to single parent households of mostly mothers, then the education system where teachers are mostly women (70%), then the culture which is more feminised and about inclusivity, compassion etc which is good to an extent although lacking positive masculinity becomes imbalanced. In fact masculinity as a whole is looked down upon or called toxic now, leading boys to be confused and hate their own nature rather than embrace its positive side and work on integrating its shadow side, its nuanced. 

 

Weak masculinity leads to women feeling more insecure and needing to step in and embrace masculine traits for survival. If not done in a balance way this is at the expense of their femininity which is what men are attracted to, leading men to be unwilling to commit to women for they offer no more than just sex, which leads to women further having to survive solo, leading to more masculine traits to be embraced, leading to further imbalance. There is great nuance and balance needed in todays world to balance the polarities for both men and women. 

 

What we see now is weak men, and the ones who are strong and get the limelight are strong in the negative masculine ie jerks / bad boys. The girls gravitate towards them sexually which leads other men to want to be emulate those negative masculine traits, and pop culture / music only confirms this further. The negative masculine is strength in its negative form but is still strength and so gains some attraction / recognition compared to a meek nice guys lacking any strength at all. This is the obsession with heroes and the rise of marvel / dc movies, the positive masculine is greatly lacking and we are starving for it now more than ever. 

even leo's @Leo Gura masculinity leaves a lot to be desired, viewing women as sexual objects to be picked up and bedded good as one notch among many conquests ... although don't tell her that of course

[zazen]

@gettoefl Know what you mean man. Im no expert and have to learn a lot but think Leo's is doing gods work teaching men pick up in a healthy manner. In his video he said whats more creepy than a guy who's at least trying to improve and gets better is a guy who doesn't know pick up / social skills at all. From my female friends and seeing how guys can be this is true.  Pick up (a term with negative connotations now unfortunately) super charges mens social skills by putting them in many interactions which the modern day lacks. Dating in the work place risks me too, in social circles if they even have a social circle risks ruing those social circles and friendships if rejection happens. Gaming, entertainment, work from home further saps us of social experience we naturally had access to in past times. 

 

He's going to go into ethics of pick up in next videos, look forward to that but don't think the intention is to bed as many women. This is an adaption to modern times, in the past you courted without sex, settled in and married a virgin / stayed together. The community, morals, religion, economic dependance kept that relationship intact even if the guy lacked 'game'. In the modern world, lacking societal pressure / community / religion to keep the relationship together, women no longer depending on men financially, and with internet / social media and big cities we giving access to many options you need 'game' or to learn how to relate with women to keep get them, even more to keep them.

Edited November 10, 2021 by zazen

[Lyubov]

I really appreciate your views here. The first half I'm with 100%. Some of the weaknesses are framed in a way I don't agree with. Regardless, nice points. 

[PurpleTree]

who said femininity is weakness on here?

i don't think anybody said that or thinks that

[NoSelfSelf]

Feminism is destroying femininity so feminism is weakness ?

[Etherial Cat]

3 minutes ago, NoSelfSelf said:

Feminism is destroying femininity so feminism is weakness ?

That guy is still a mod? 

Edited November 10, 2021 by Etherial Cat

[gettoefl]

1 hour ago, zazen said:

@gettoefl Know what you mean man. Im no expert and have to learn a lot but think Leo's is doing gods work teaching men pick up in a healthy manner. In his video he said whats more creepy than a guy who's at least trying to improve and gets better is a guy who doesn't know pick up / social skills at all. From my female friends and seeing how guys can be this is true.  Pick up (a term with negative connotations now unfortunately) super charges mens social skills by putting them in many interactions which the modern day lacks. Dating in the work place risks me too, in social circles if they even have a social circle risks ruing those social circles and friendships if rejection happens. Gaming, entertainment, work from home further saps us of social experience we naturally had access to in past times. 

 

He's going to go into ethics of pick up in next videos, look forward to that but don't think the intention is to bed as many women. This is an adaption to modern times, in the past you courted without sex, settled in and married a virgin / stayed together. The community, morals, religion, economic dependance kept that relationship intact even if the guy lacked 'game'. In the modern world, lacking societal pressure / community / religion to keep the relationship together, women no longer depending on men financially, and with internet / social media and big cities we giving access to many options you need 'game' or to learn how to relate with women to keep get them, even more to keep them.

i say pick up in dysfunctional for both men and women, the men's mentality is predator stalking prey and the woman's mentality is be passive be flirty be coy be dumb ... both are wearing false fronts, the man is not even interested in the woman just a sexual conquest and the woman is evaluating on superficial factors that don't matter in a relationship ... i say instead join groups, like meetup.com, book clubs, walking groups etc even online dating is okay just no magic bullet, there are good sites such as conscioussingles.com but yea you have to put in a ton of work to get a crumb of skin

[PurpleTree]

6 minutes ago, gettoefl said:

 i say instead join groups, like meetup.com

i actually would and have but in my small-ish city there aren't many cool meetup.com groups

 

 

 

edit: and also is it not a bit creepy to go to such groups in hopes to meet let's say mostly women (not in a conquest type way just "normal" whatever that means)

Edited November 10, 2021 by PurpleTree

[NoSelfSelf]

@Etherial Cat Yeah i love it tnx for wondering love you <3

[gettoefl]

4 minutes ago, PurpleTree said:

i actually would and have but in my small-ish city there aren't many cool meetup.com groups

 

 

 

edit: and also is it not a bit creepy to go to such groups in hopes to meet let's say mostly women (not in a conquest type way just "normal" whatever that means)

you go for the activity, the women are a bonus but you find that everyone is there to meet people, you meet cool men too ... social time is its own good

[Flowerfaeiry]

5 hours ago, Jacob Morres said:

Divine masculine is non-judgmental 

Thank you divine masculine for all your beautiful gifts  

[Spiral]

This thread seems toxic. Perhaps banning the “gender x is terrible and y is wonderful” sort of topics could be a beneficial approach.

[Random witch]

@Jacob Morres See, my purpose wasn't to shame but to talk about issue that is disturbing for me.

I'm tired of people who see femininity as weakness and I wanted to make it clear what weakness is really is.

As a part of this society I just had to develop some masculine traits in order to survive.

I had to develop my assertiveness, my ability to protect myself and my loved ones, logical thinking, and the ability to fight when it's needed.

Part of the divine masculinity is to use critical thinking and share genuine thoughts, this is what I did here, so you can't really use the card of "Go develop your masculinity then" against me.

I'm not the most balanced person but I'm more balanced than other people here, especially in this forum.