Documenting 5-MeO-MALT/other psychedelics journey.

[markobo]

Hello everyone,

This is my first time posting. I don't have much experience being active on forums, so if I'm doing something that's against the rules please let me know.

My plan is to use this topic to document my journey with psychedelics (and possibly other spiritual practices). I have had my fair share of psychedelic experiences, but have never approached psychedelics as a practice in and of themselves. My aim is to heighten my state of consciousness as Leo talks about in his videos through these experiences. 

I got my hands on some 5-Meo-MALT Hcl together with a friend of mine who is on the same journey. Somewhere the coming two weeks I will plug 10-15 mg of 5-MeO-MALT. I'm scared but really excited as well. After each experience I will give a report in this topic.

For now I have a few questions: I've been on a few meditation retreats and have tried many different things but I seem to keep struggling with some reoccurring emotional issues. When I'm in a romantic relationship with a girl I crave her validation more than I would like to. This is not a constant thing but it shows up once in a while. If she does not reply to my texts for example, I can have a hard time letting go, even to the point that it interferes with every day functioning. I am not able to work without being distracted or hang out with friends and have fun when this happens. 

Honestly, I am sick of it and I know that fundamentally it comes from a lack of self-love. I hope that by deepening my consciousness these issues will resolve themselves. If anyone has experience working on similar emotion issues successfully through the use of psychedelics I would love to hear what your experience has been. 

Also, Leo mentions all these deep states of consciousness but rarely talks about the impact these experiences have on daily life. In spiritual traditions, often the main aim is to decrease suffering in ones life. Will these practises eradicate suffering in the same way that Buddhism says it does?

I will give updates as I go along and report my experiences here if anyone is interested!

Thank you for reading.

[tlowedajuicemayne]

Hey whats up, 

I'm not a spiritual teacher by any stretch of the imagination but IMO turning to Malt to clear up emotional issues like the one you mention here probably isn't going to work very well. Mostly because psychedelics like the one you're planning on taking are in the realm of awakening and less in the realm of self help. Psilocybin, Ayahuasca, and LSD are more in the realm of self-help and you'll probably get better results with these more established psychedelics. Not only is the duration of these psychedelics longer which will give you more time to process and work through your trauma, but they are also more widely known and proven to work. Do you have experience with these more well established psychedelics? MALT is very novel and there are many things you should take into consideration before jumping in head first into this experience- I sure hope you've done your homework and aren't just jumping into this because Leo said so. If you aren't truly ready for this experience, I feel for you. Psychedelics like the one you're about to take are not forgiving. Ready or not the Truth is going to be revealed and what you do with that when you get back will have a lot to do with your level of spiritual maturity. 

One last thing- Taking any psychedelic with the hope that your trauma and emotional issues will just be cleared up afterwards is unskillful. These types of spiritual issues can only truly be solved by you. Whether you do it with the help of a psychedelic or not, you're still the one whose got to work through your baggage, no one and no thing can do that for you. Psychedelics can help you progress more quickly sometimes, but they aren't going to do all the work for you and spit you out squeaky clean in the end. If I were you, I'd spend some time working through your trauma's and emotional issues with other psychedelics and maybe spend some years sitting meditation before taking something like MALT. There's no rush to the finish line homie. You literally have eternity to get this awakening thing right. Anytime you want to, you can coast for a bit, and enjoy the ride. 

Goodluck!

[Chris365]

34 minutes ago, tlowedajuicemayne said:

You literally have eternity to get this awakening thing right

At the same time, no matter what you do, you can't get it wrong 

[markobo]

22 hours ago, tlowedajuicemayne said:

I'm not a spiritual teacher by any stretch of the imagination but IMO turning to Malt to clear up emotional issues like the one you mention here probably isn't going to work very well. Mostly because psychedelics like the one you're planning on taking are in the realm of awakening and less in the realm of self help. Psilocybin, Ayahuasca, and LSD are more in the realm of self-help and you'll probably get better results with these more established psychedelics. Not only is the duration of these psychedelics longer which will give you more time to process and work through your trauma, but they are also more widely known and proven to work. Do you have experience with these more well established psychedelics?

You might be right, but I have heard people mention working through emotional stuff with the 5-MeO's and it would make sense to me that awakenings ultimately are beneficial for emotional health as well. In fact, I doubt whether it's even possible to deepen consciousness without clearing out emotional crap. Of course I could be wrong. 

I just came back from a 3 week Ayahuasca retreat (which did not have a strong effect - Ayahuasca does not work for about 15-20% of people), and have taken LSD, mushrooms, 2-CB and mescaline. I also have experience with smoked N,N-DMT as well as smoked 5-MeO-DMT. I have had multiple profound experiences with these psychedelics.

As far as duration goes, when 5-MeO is either insufflated or plugged the experience last 1-2 hours, which is still shorter than a mushroom trip, but quite a bit longer than the 10-20 minutes when it's smoked.  

22 hours ago, tlowedajuicemayne said:

I sure hope you've done your homework and aren't just jumping into this because Leo said so. If you aren't truly ready for this experience, I feel for you. Psychedelics like the one you're about to take are not forgiving. Ready or not the Truth is going to be revealed and what you do with that when you get back will have a lot to do with your level of spiritual maturity. 

I'm not sure to what degree I should trust my own intuition, but I feel more ready than ever to do this. 

22 hours ago, tlowedajuicemayne said:

One last thing- Taking any psychedelic with the hope that your trauma and emotional issues will just be cleared up afterwards is unskillful. These types of spiritual issues can only truly be solved by you. Whether you do it with the help of a psychedelic or not, you're still the one whose got to work through your baggage, no one and no thing can do that for you. Psychedelics can help you progress more quickly sometimes, but they aren't going to do all the work for you and spit you out squeaky clean in the end. If I were you, I'd spend some time working through your trauma's and emotional issues with other psychedelics and maybe spend some years sitting meditation before taking something like MALT.

Maybe I communicated what I expect from these experiences poorly. I am willing to put a lot of effort to work through my baggage. I have meditated for a few years, I traveled to three continents with the sole purpose of spiritual growth, I did several on-site as well as at home meditation retreats. I am willing to put in all the effort that's needed, and do not expect in any way that psychedelics will miraculously solve all my problems. 

I'm not saying this to brag, but to communicate that I know it's important to put in the work and not expect a quick fix.

What is your experience? Have you resolved emotional stuff through psychedelics?   

I appreciate your reply by the way! Thank you

[tlowedajuicemayne]

No prob! I'm glad to hear you've taken the time to do your homework on MALT. I hope I'm wrong and it truly clears up your emotional blockage and changes your life for the best! I have considerable experience with LSD and working through trauma. I'll post some of my other trip reports on here soon. Look forward to your trip reports!