No Nut November

[spiritual memes]

@Emotionalmosquito Stay strong soldier!

[Emotionalmosquito]

Brothers,

We are now a third of the way to victory. How are you all holding up?

[Kshantivadin]

NNN is every month of the year. No need to hold up because we've already overcome it!

[Gabith]

I'm doing it since 11 days here what I've noticed; I feel more energized

A little bit more confident & conscious. Yesterday I had thoughts/stories about domination, violence, rape, sex.... It felt good, it's like if I had more masculine energy

Edited November 11, 2021 by Gabith

[Emotionalmosquito]

@Kshantivadin Not everyone possesses such godlike impulse control. Many of us aspire to be like you someday, assuming you’re telling the truth of course.

@Gabith

Mostly same here. Especially with getting more aggressive in my thinking. One of the biggest benefits I see is it greatly increases my desire and motivation to do yoga. This reason alone makes the whole thing worth it.

[Kshantivadin]

10 hours ago, Emotionalmosquito said:

@Kshantivadin Not everyone possesses such godlike impulse control. Many of us aspire to be like you someday, assuming you’re telling the truth of course.

 

I was referring to the mindset that's the godlike mindset

[Danioover9000]

@spiritual memes

On 03/11/2021 at 9:54 PM, spiritual memes said:

I'm doing NNN this year. Anyone else joining me?

   I'm in, and that includes December too. When I don't nut too often, I have way more energy, confidence, self control, willpower, motivation, increase in thought, better mood overall, and aggressive energy. While I'm still youngish, similar to some people here, I'm not too interested in women, nor do I make them top priority. Quality of mind and body, finding and working my passion is top priority. No fap, in this context, is a very useful resource to use if you have a direction to channel that sexual energy towards. Some examples from me include punching 300 pound bags, bending iron rods, reading books, thinking more slowly, visualizing more in 3d, feeling emotionally fit, feeling more mentally fit.

[Yarco]

I tried but then I got a VR headset. Damn, VR porn is good.

[diamondpenguin]

On 11/3/2021 at 6:25 PM, Leo Gura said:

Do you really need to coordinate your nutting with a bunch of other dudes? Sounds kinda gay

@Leo Gura @spiritual memes That's good, we should all go get it going together in my bedroom. haha, you're all invited

[Danioover9000]

@spiritual memes progress on your end? I've felt that spike in energy and hit the gym hard, and meditated long.

[Gabith]

Day 16, I felt emotions strongly especially anger, the need to break things, to move. I can look girls in the eyes without being the first to look away 
I want to fuck

[Danioover9000]

@Gabith

4 hours ago, Gabith said:

Day 16, I felt emotions strongly especially anger, the need to break things, to move. I can look girls in the eyes without being the first to look away 
I want to fuck

   That's good, channel that energy into whatever you're passionate about, in your hobby ect. That's also the state you need to put yourself in when doing pick up. It's a good feeling when you find yourself holding eye contact more while conversing.

[Danioover9000]

   This is an interesting story about how Nofap effected this guy. Notice how it effected his health and dating situation:

 

   While we are joking around about Nofap, there does seem to be some truth to the experiences.

Edited November 19, 2021 by Danioover9000

[Kshantivadin]

Semen retention has been done by spiritual masters for thousands of years. No debate there. Most debate is merely a justification of attachment to pleasure and comfort and a rationalisation of unwholesome habits and a lack of discipline.

[Salvijus]

9 hours ago, Danioover9000 said:

   

 

Lol. I feel there's a lot of placebo that people get when they do nofap. Confirmation bias you can call it maybe.

The only benefits you will get from nofap is less lazyness because ejaculation drains life force and that's it. The rest of the benefits area bit made up. Also health benefit is there because your body has more energy to heal itself when you're not draining the life force everyday. 

That benefit of becoming chick magnet is also not very true, well somewhat true maybe. Because when you don't drain the life force everyday, your body attains to a certain glow of vitality and health. And woman kind of get attracted to this. A healthy looking guy will obviously be more attractive than a lousy, drained, no energy person. In that sense yes. 

Being 10× times more horny is not true. That only happens when you're suppressing the energy without transmuting the energy into something else. Sexual energy wants to be used and released somehow. One way of course is ejaculation. If you don't do ejaculation, then you must be either very physically active, or very intelectually active, or be very hardcore meditator. Than that alloted sexual energy gets used in one of those things and the horniness goes away.

Confidence benefit is probably placebo imo. Well... some indirect correlation could be there. Ejaculation somehow makes you feel dirty and uncomfortable, it makes you feel like you just want to be alone for some time for a few hours or maybe a day. But it's subtle, most people don't notice it.

Social skills will sky rocket? Placebo.

The guy is exaggerating about the depomine thing.

 

Edited November 19, 2021 by Salvijus

[AleksM]

The whole nofap movement is something that does more damage than good. The problem is not masturbation, masturbation is normal and natural. The problem is masturbating to porn and wasting time looking at that. That's what does the real damage. Learn to separate masturbation from watching porn and then you will naturally masturbate less. When you watch porn it's normal to masturbate like 5-10x times more than if you don't.

The whole idea that something amazing will happen after 90 days is stage orange thinking. And suppressing your natural masturbation urges is stage blue at work. Develop a life purpose and you will not even think about engaging in such nonsense. There are of course benefits to abstaining, but the problem is that if you go to far, you will backslide in a way that you will conpenaste for the lost time of masturbating and watching porn. When you don't watch porn and masturbate naturally when it feels good, that will not happen.

Even some monks are allowed to masturbate once every 3 weeks.

[Danioover9000]

@Kshantivadin

8 hours ago, Kshantivadin said:

Semen retention has been done by spiritual masters for thousands of years. No debate there. Most debate is merely a justification of attachment to pleasure and comfort and a rationalisation of unwholesome habits and a lack of discipline.

   Yes, some spiritual masters do semen retention, which to me is way more difficult than a typical Nofap abstinence plan, which commonly ends when the addicted individual stops masturbating to porn mags/videos/erotica/material compulsively, and instead have sex with women, enidng the person's single statues and maybe insecurities. From only doing Nofap and abstaining a few days to a week, to semen retention for years with spiritual practices, there are degrees of difficulty.

[Danioover9000]

@Salvijus

6 hours ago, Salvijus said:

Lol. I feel there's a lot of placebo that people get when they do nofap. Confirmation bias you can call it maybe.

The only benefits you will get from nofap is less lazyness because ejaculation drains life force and that's it. The rest of the benefits area bit made up. Also health benefit is there because your body has more energy to heal itself when you're not draining the life force everyday. 

That benefit of becoming chick magnet is also not very true, well somewhat true maybe. Because when you don't drain the life force everyday, your body attains to a certain glow of vitality and health. And woman kind of get attracted to this. A healthy looking guy will obviously be more attractive than a lousy, drained, no energy person. In that sense yes. 

Being 10× times more horny is not true. That only happens when you're suppressing the energy without transmuting the energy into something else. Sexual energy wants to be used and released somehow. One way of course is ejaculation. If you don't do ejaculation, then you must be either very physically active, or very intelectually active, or be very hardcore meditator. Than that alloted sexual energy gets used in one of those things and the horniness goes away.

Confidence benefit is probably placebo imo. Well... some indirect correlation could be there. Ejaculation somehow makes you feel dirty and uncomfortable, it makes you feel like you just want to be alone for some time for a few hours or maybe a day. But it's subtle, most people don't notice it.

Social skills will sky rocket? Placebo.

The guy is exaggerating about the depomine thing.

 

   I could see that most of Nofap, and to some extent semen retention, can be confirmation bias.

   There's a bit more benefits one can get with even a typical Nofap, but definitely there is less laziness in that state, due to more life force energy being preserved, which stems from Taoist teaching/ tantric yoga teachings, and more esoteric branches.

   Yes, not an immediate chick magnet, plus the person doing Nofap or semen retention, while in that state, still has to be at social places and interact with people in general, chicks included, to let that energy glow out to other people obviously. 

   Of course, you're not 10x horny all the time, horniness is emotion, like any other emotions it comes and goes in various degrees. Being in Nofap/semen retention states exposes you to higher ranges of horniness that can be transferred to other methods, like meditating, studying, fitness and so on. Emotion is comprised of a set of feelings, for example anger is an emotion, which consists of higher muscle tension, facial tension like clenched teeth and furrowed brows, eyes starring at eye or slightly on the forehead, slight increase in heart rate, pump, shorter faster breathing, and so on. Horniness consists of feelings like a boner, increased heart rate and pump, shorter breathing, slight goose bumps, pleasant muscle tensions, eyes leering to areas of sexual interest for a second longer, face chill, overall similar to anger and excitement. Combine that with thought stories associated with emotions, and that gives you the state, which changes your behavior.

   Yes, there is some correlation with increase in confidence while being in the semen retention/Nofap state, as like you've stated before, there's far more life force energy being preserved. Confidence comes from having a pool of past experiences, or thought stories of empowerment, and being in more active states of consciousness that produces the emotion confidence, which is comprised of feelings like longer eye contact, wider smiling, more expressive face, loose neck and shoulders, squared to person you are engaging, loose expressive hands and arms, more upright and open postures that take up slightly more space, feet are also as squared as the shoulders or slightly wider while standing and sitting, no crossing of arms/legs in general, and having thoughts about believing you can achieve the desired outcome/process, as you've done this lots of times. You see, you can't feel confidence as strongly when you are coming more from more insecurity , a lack of believing you can, disempowering thoughts. Nofap/semen retention sort of forces you into a state of abundance, which generally helps you tap into what it might feel like when you're more confident. Yes, just like horniness, confidence too can come in various degrees.

   And yes, social skills can skyrocket, provided you go to those social situations in a state of Nofap, and be social in that state. obviously if you don't follow up, you won't be automatically socially skillful. Just today, and few days ago, I  did lots of voice exercises and being social, and it feels pretty good, much better than if I had to exercise or be social when I nutted myself too much in the past. 

[Danioover9000]

@AleksM

2 hours ago, AleksM said:

The whole nofap movement is something that does more damage than good. The problem is not masturbation, masturbation is normal and natural. The problem is masturbating to porn and wasting time looking at that. That's what does the real damage. Learn to separate masturbation from watching porn and then you will naturally masturbate less. When you watch porn it's normal to masturbate like 5-10x times more than if you don't.

The whole idea that something amazing will happen after 90 days is stage orange thinking. And suppressing your natural masturbation urges is stage blue at work. Develop a life purpose and you will not even think about engaging in such nonsense. There are of course benefits to abstaining, but the problem is that if you go to far, you will backslide in a way that you will conpenaste for the lost time of masturbating and watching porn. When you don't watch porn and masturbate naturally when it feels good, that will not happen.

Even some monks are allowed to masturbate once every 3 weeks.

   At the very least, there's a movement that offers the seriously sexually addicted a chance to challenge themselves to abstain from porn/masturbation, for one month per year. After that, it's up to the person how much more/less masturbation and sex is needed. Important point is person gave it a try, and became a little bit more conscious of any compulsive behavior that needs working.

   The main problem is letting the porn viewing become compulsive, overly compulsive that every normal activity you feel like nutting doing normal day actions, that's when it can get damaging, as that has some influence on state, thoughts/feelings cycle, moral view, cognition and distorted values and views especially on sexuality. There are some ways to let the person train their self awareness enough to distinguish masturbation from pornography, separate the two, and allow the person to change the object of focus for the masturbation. One of the  ways in that is taking on the Nofap for one month challenge, and so it's not just a person becoming into a state of Nofap, the person is being in the state of Nofap. In that state, the person can experience ever increasing self awareness on their thoughts, feelings, morals, and personality. Any lack can then become more obvious to the person in that state to work on.

   Yes, amazing benefits at around day 90 can be framed as stage orange thinking and marketing, but depending on how severe the compulsive behavior is to a person, those 90 days are amazing to those who are deeply suffering. A few have experienced such benefits around 90 days in. The Taoists who practice celibacy do so throughout the winter session, and after that return to their allotted times of sexual release techniques. It's in the realm of possibility. And to some who are naturally less sexually active, might not experience those benefits to that degree.

   Yes, seasoned monks can induce orgasmic states of consciousness, and non-ejaculate. Highly trained and gifted human beings. And? Yeah, I know, too good to be true, but very few people can induce orgasmic states at will. 

[Kshantivadin]

On 11/19/2021 at 4:59 PM, AleksM said:

The whole nofap movement is something that does more damage than good. The problem is not masturbation, masturbation is normal and natural. The problem is masturbating to porn and wasting time looking at that. That's what does the real damage. Learn to separate masturbation from watching porn and then you will naturally masturbate less. When you watch porn it's normal to masturbate like 5-10x times more than if you don't.

The whole idea that something amazing will happen after 90 days is stage orange thinking. And suppressing your natural masturbation urges is stage blue at work. Develop a life purpose and you will not even think about engaging in such nonsense. There are of course benefits to abstaining, but the problem is that if you go to far, you will backslide in a way that you will conpenaste for the lost time of masturbating and watching porn. When you don't watch porn and masturbate naturally when it feels good, that will not happen.

Even some monks are allowed to masturbate once every 3 weeks.

Have you done 90 days of "hardmode" (no sex, no stimuli, no touching, no fantasizing)?