Could You Accept A Government Chosen Partner

[Raptorsin7]

Imagine a dystopian society where the government has taken control over the dating process because of societal unrest caused by a break down of relationships and families. This is actually possible, if you consider single rates in countries like Japan and Korea, maybe a utopian regime will come (think Pol Pot) and force people into the relationship for the betterment of society.

How would you respond to this? Is it possible to just make it work with a person if both people simply accept their fate? 

[aurum]

@Raptorsin7 In a way, highly collectivist societies have always had a influence over who people date. There’s never just been 100% freedom.

If you were in a stage Purple tribe, you’d be constrained on dating by a) who was a member of your tribe (which was already highly constrained by geography) and perhaps also b) some sort of arranged marriage, which would have been based off of the well-being of the tribe.

That’s also why sacrifice has been an important part of these cultures. You are expected to surrender to the needs of the tribe, so that we can then all live a successful life.

What you’re describing sounds like a more modern version of an arranged marriage. It’s sort of the equivalent of your father coming to you and saying “you need to marry so-and-so because then we’ll get X benefits”.

Now in our modern society, that seems crazy. We want people to get married because they fall in love organically, not out of coercion. We want personal freedom to choose. We want to feel like it was an internal decision, not one forced upon us.

And there’s good reason for that. Many arranged marriages end up not being good ones. If someone feels they were coerced into a relationship, they may not fully invest in it because they see it as an “obligation” vs something they want to do. And what if you get stuck with someone who is abusive or who you just aren’t compatible with? 

My grandparents had an arranged marriage and I don’t think I ever saw much love there. It was purely a survival move.

At the same time, I doubt that societies that regularly had arranged marriages saw their situation as “dystopian”. I suspect they just saw it as a part of life, and many of them were able to find happiness regardless.

You have to remember that autonomy and freedom of choice is really an SD Orange value. Anywhere else on the spiral does not place such a high value on this. Even Red does not value “personal freedom” on the whole, as someone at Stage Red is okay being a warlord / dictator that enslaves people.

So my conclusion is that life would go on. Yes, there be a lot of problems with government trying to arrange marriages. But people would do it temporarily for the sake of survival, until we no longer felt it was at stake.

There is also a cost for freedom. How much emotional and mental energy have you spent trying to figure out your dating life? The more freedom you have, the more decisions you have to make. While I like personal freedom, too much freedom can very quickly backfire, leaving you stuck in paralysis and making your life miserable.

[Danioover9000]

@Raptorsin7

On 26/10/2021 at 1:19 PM, Raptorsin7 said:

Imagine a dystopian society where the government has taken control over the dating process because of societal unrest caused by a break down of relationships and families. This is actually possible, if you consider single rates in countries like Japan and Korea, maybe a utopian regime will come (think Pol Pot) and force people into the relationship for the betterment of society.

How would you respond to this? Is it possible to just make it work with a person if both people simply accept their fate? 

   To some extent, Japan and Korea has already in place rental partners and rental families in one of it's business sectors. I'm not sure about the other eastern cultures today, but I think that western cultures have yet to implement their infrastructure around renting partners/family members yet, and the west still has a long way to go being collectively comfortable doing that.

[JosephKnecht]

On 26/10/2021 at 2:19 PM, Raptorsin7 said:

How would you respond to this?

The government can barely deliver my mail. How can they deliver me a bride?  

It is much more likely that in the future there will be an algorithm that can calculate a "compatibility partner" for you. 

All the data that has been gathered by google, facebook, etc can be used to deduce your personal preferences and can find a "partner" that is suitable for you. (This assumes that google,FB, know you better than you know yourself).

[PurpleTree]

only if she's hot and funny

hihi hihi hihi

[Nahm]

Force betters a society like fate betters conscious creation. 

[Karmadhi]

This is every Incel's dream  

[Fearless_Bum]

@Raptorsin7 what If all those single people in Korea and Japan are single because they all believe that people are more and more becoming single in the world and falling into victim mentality? Ironically creating the problem they are imagining because they refuse to take responsibility for how they feel. 

It's like if we all individually have false beliefs about women and say "wow, single men are on the rise! It's probably not my fault! The system is broken!".