The universe is eternal?

[Tyler Durden]

What if the universe had no beginning?

"Bento and his collaborators used this causal-set approach to explore the beginning of the universe. They found that it's possible that the universe had no beginning — that it has always existed into the infinite past and only recently evolved into what we perceive as the Big Bang which may have been just a particular moment in the evolution of this always-existing causal set, not a true beginning."

https://www.livescience.com/universe-had-no-beginning-time

What do you think about this theory? Is it closer to the truth than The Big Bang Theory? I know that science can't give us the ultimate answers but do you consider this the step into the right direction?

 

 

[Leo Gura]

Reality has existed FOREVER.

God (YOU) is dreaming endlessly in any direction you look.

YOU ARE AN INFINITE DREAM.

No matter how deeply you look, you will never find an end to Yourself. Nor a beginning.

[Tyler Durden]

5 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

Reality has existed FOREVER.

Do you think that this theory is a sign that even the scientists are slowly realizing this fact?

Edited October 19, 2021 by Tyler Durden

[Leo Gura]

34 minutes ago, Tyler Durden said:

Do you think that this theory is a sign that even the scientists are slowly realizing this fact?

They're not really realizing it though. It's all just conceptual and not a true realization.

It cannot be grasped using dualities like beginning/end or science/non-science.

Of course everywhere science looks it will see Infinity.

Just the fact that you can count the integers up to infinity is evidence that reality is infinite. You could not count up to infinity if reality was finite. The problem is that scientists are not thinking holistically enough to realize the significance of what infinity means. All the scientific clues fall on deaf scientific ears.

[Dumuzzi]

According to the traditional Eastern view, time is cyclical, that is the universe is created and destroyed many times over. Each cycle of creation is called a day of Brahma (the creator god in the Hindu trinity) and is believed to last billions of years. We are currently about 2 billion years into the current cycle according to Hindu tradition. Not far off the actual number, if you consider how primitive their astrological instruments were all those millennia ago.

But yes, the universe is destroyed and created ad infinitum, when Brahma sleeps, there is no time, it is only created when he manifests the universe after each cycle.

This seems rather similar to what those scientific theories state.

[Tyler Durden]

@Dumuzzi Interesting explanation. It's in line with the scientific theory known as The Big Crunch.

"The Big Crunch is a hypothetical scenario for the ultimate fate of the universe, in which the expansion of the universe eventually reverses and the universe recollapses, ultimately causing the cosmic scale factor to reach zero, an event potentially followed by a reformation of the universe starting with another Big Bang."

Edited October 19, 2021 by Tyler Durden

[Dumuzzi]

@Tyler Durden Yes, I believe the cyclical reoccurrence of the big bang is currently the most widely accepted theory out there for the creation / destruction of the universe. There are other ones out there which consider the effect of parallel universes intersecting with each other, creating new ones.

[Dumuzzi]

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

Reality has existed FOREVER.

God (YOU) is dreaming endlessly in any direction you look.

YOU ARE AN INFINITE DREAM.

No matter how deeply you look, you will never find an end to Yourself. Nor a beginning.

True enough, but this is only true logically, because we cannot look into what does not (yet) exist. We are limited by the expansion of the universe and can only look as far as the universe itself extends, because that's where the space-time construct enables it. Should we find a way to go outside the current space-time construct, we would create our own extension of the universe or a new universe. In this sense, it is impossible to reach the end of the universe, because it is always expanding and we cannot expand or accelerate at the same rate as this expansion.

[BipolarGrowth]

16 minutes ago, Dumuzzi said:

True enough, but this is only true logically, because we cannot look into what does not (yet) exist. We are limited by the expansion of the universe and can only look as far as the universe itself extends, because that's where the space-time construct enables it. Should we find a way to go outside the current space-time construct, we would create our own extension of the universe or a new universe. In this sense, it is impossible to reach the end of the universe, because it is always expanding and we cannot expand or accelerate at the same rate as this expansion.

You’re always at the end of the universe. 

[Leo Gura]

34 minutes ago, Dumuzzi said:

but this is only true logically

No, it is true Absolutely.

[WokeBloke]

There is no time or experience until you created time and experience in my opinion.

[Moksha]

Absolute Consciousness is beyond time, and perpetually creates and destroys the cosmos. The human mind can't grok paradox, or conceptually grasp how time intersects with timelessness. It is only directly realized as truth.