I'm in Hell. AMA (Ask me anything)

[Iksander]

Q. 

Are you being Self- Responsible? Are you putting yourself through hell?

There is no other hell than yourself. Let's examine fear for a minute, please sit and go through this with me for a moment.

 

The Nature Of Fear

Crime is committed by Men and Women who have fear inside them, fear of life. They don't understand it. Crimes are committed to try to get a feeling other other than fear, but it never works. The object of fear is to keep you under fear so that other human beings who are passing it onto you can try to feel relief from anxiety and insecurity (which never happens)

 

A Bold Move

See that the purpose of fear is to intimidate you. To make you think you are necessarily under it's all power, but it isn't all power. It seems to be because you haven't achieved a certain insight yet. That means you must get rid of your fear, and that is the solution to the whole business.

You are going to have to be spiritually unique. You're going to have to be a Truly noble human being. Through the nobility of Reality itself NOT of your own self.  You're going to have to break the pattern that has kept your insecurity in place. And you can do it right NOW.

 

Relief Is No Relief

When you choose relief from your tension, from your worry, when you choose to relieve it, it always comes back. What are you doing to relieve your fear of life? What are you doing to escape the fact that you have no idea who you are? Some go into alcoholism, others become workaholics, others invent a variety of escapes.

 

Be Audacious!

Why don't you be very audacious right now and never again relieve your anxiety. No matter who is pursuing you down those dark foggy streets, no matter what is after you, REFUSE to try and escape from it to find relief. Imagination, false concepts about yourself (e.g. I am unlovable). When you have a false concept about yourself you are afraid because you are apart from reality. You feel unreal, and that is fear, then you create all these fears because it has become your solidified life! Most people never escape a certain horror which is this;

They alternate between being the scared girl and the hooded figure stalking the scared girl in the foggy streets.

[Breakingthewall]

@Blackhawk Hell does not exist, it is just a mental image that you are creating. you can go from hell to heaven in a second. heaven is reality, hell is mental. reading you it seems that you want to wallow in hell. pure self pity. your hell is the same as everyone else's, an image. there is only heaven and hell. If your hell is especially unpleasant, congratulations, an incentive to get out of it. The labyrinth seems indecipherable until you leave it, then you see that it was a trap. You couldn't solve it out no matter how hard you tried. You could only rise above him

Edited October 19, 2021 by Breakingthewall

[Blackhawk]

Another big aspect of the hell is that no one understands you, they even deny that you are in hell/that you have a problem. It makes the loneliness even worse.

That's the main reason why I don't even reply to you guys. You disagree with me about everything. And believe things that aren't true.

Edited October 19, 2021 by Blackhawk

[Loba]

How did you get there?

Do you see a way out?

What supplies do you need put into a basket and lowered into the fiery pit below us that you're trapped in.

[snowyowl]

Sorry to hear you're going through it again man. Do you get the loneliness all the time, or is there a pattern to when it happens? Just curious because you've been posting here about every two months this year, maybe there's something triggering it? 

Every time you post, there's a group of people wanting to chat with you, to be friendly and helpful, of course you're not inherently unlikeable. But it seems you've had problems socialising in real life for a long time, have you been lonely since childhood? 

So far you've rejected pretty much all the advice the forum members have offered, nothing works.  Ok so maybe we don't understand you, all the more reason to swallow your pride and seek some professional help to get to the root of your problem. Getting a diagnosis will gain access to suitable treatment. Not having a girlfriend isn't the source of your suffering, it's a symptom of a broader communication issue imo. I wish you well for the future. 

[Nahm]

Why is it said that ‘the devil is in hell’? 

What does conditioning and judgement have to do with this if anything. 

Thank you. 

[Javfly33]

14 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

@Blackhawk Hell does not exist, it is just a mental image that you are creating. you can go from hell to heaven in a second. heaven is reality, hell is mental. reading you it seems that you want to wallow in hell. pure self pity. your hell is the same as everyone else's, an image. there is only heaven and hell. If your hell is especially unpleasant, congratulations, an incentive to get out of it. The labyrinth seems indecipherable until you leave it, then you see that it was a trap. You couldn't solve it out no matter how hard you tried. You could only rise above him

???

 

9 hours ago, Blackhawk said:

Another big aspect of the hell is that no one understands you, they even deny that you are in hell/that you have a problem. It makes the loneliness even worse.

That's the main reason why I don't even reply to you guys. You disagree with me about everything. And believe things that aren't true.

If you already know what is true, when why you opened the post? 

I think subsconsciously you opened the thread because of actually "suspecting" something is not right in the sense that you are current state is not the actual truth

[4201]

On 17/10/2021 at 2:02 PM, Nahm said:

 AMA

How does understanding the emotions experienced liberate one from such a place?

Thank you in advance for your answer.  

There's no such thing as understanding only misunderstanding, which explains why you'd ask this question in the first place. There's no such thing as liberation either, Hell is eternal, everywhere and unstoppable and it endlessly gets worse.

The whole idea that there could be a "better place" is only there to make you suffer in comparison to your "current place". This better place is purely imaginary it doesn't actually exist. Other people keep talking about it only because they hate you deeply and they want to make you suffer more. The people you think love you actually hate you the most and they pretend to love you only so they can hurt you more deeply later.

On 17/10/2021 at 2:02 PM, Nahm said:

Why is it said that ‘the devil is in hell’? 

What does conditioning and judgement have to do with this if anything. 

Thank you. 

The only reason it is said that "the devil is in hell" is to confuse you even more, to create even more misunderstanding and suffering. It doesn't actually mean anything but to survive as a normal human being in society you have to pretend you understand those things so people don't judge you. In reality you couldn't even understand them if you tried because there's no such thing as understanding.

Again, conditioning and judgement are concepts created by other people in society purposefully for you to have to pretend you understand them while in fact you are totally and physically unable to understang anything. The only thing there is about conditioning is the pain of having been beaten up as a kid and the only thing there is about judgement is being humiliated by other people for having done things that are not in line with their views.

You can pretend to be capable of understanding and make up fake concepts like conditioning and jugements as "tools" to help you "understand" things but all of this is just a play you do on yourself so you could suffer more greatly later. All hope is just build up for a future disappointment. As I said Hell constantly get worse but it has to find ways to get worse and fake hope and dreams are ways it does this. Hell is infinitely intelligent so it will always outsmart you when it comes to this.

There's literally nothing you can do about it, you are entirely powerless and incapable of anything. Other people could do something for you but they won't because they hate you. Acceptance is also fake hope which goes nowhere, the only thing to do is struggle and you'll struggle whether you want to do it or not. Perhaps you think death will let you out but this too is just fake hope. In reality when you die you access a deeper level of Hell where suffering is much worse. 

 

I know I don't have @Blackhawk expertise on this but given he is really busy with struggle, I had to answer for him. If you want to learn more about Hell, I recommend doing the practices. Anti-meditation is a really good technique where you breathe in and out as fast as possible until you can't do it anymore. At this point bang your head against a brick wall 3 times and try again. Another good technique is to think about people in your life and focus on how much you hate them. Be careful to not focus on the feeling but rather, use thinking to justify why you hate them and what wrong they did to you. More importantly, make sure to use confirmation bias to discard any thought which goes against suffering and pain.

[Blackhawk]

7 hours ago, Loba said:

Do you see a way out?

What supplies do you need put into a basket and lowered into the fiery pit below us that you're trapped in.

No I don't see a way out.

I liked that thing about the basket. I don't know what supplies I need.

5 hours ago, snowyowl said:

Sorry to hear you're going through it again man. Do you get the loneliness all the time, or is there a pattern to when it happens? Just curious because you've been posting here about every two months this year, maybe there's something triggering it? 

Every time you post, there's a group of people wanting to chat with you, to be friendly and helpful, of course you're not inherently unlikeable. But it seems you've had problems socialising in real life for a long time, have you been lonely since childhood? 

So far you've rejected pretty much all the advice the forum members have offered, nothing works.  Ok so maybe we don't understand you, all the more reason to swallow your pride and seek some professional help to get to the root of your problem. Getting a diagnosis will gain access to suitable treatment. Not having a girlfriend isn't the source of your suffering, it's a symptom of a broader communication issue imo. I wish you well for the future. 

Oh okay, I haven't noticed that thing about 2 months.

I don't think there's something triggering it.

When I was very young I had several friends. But then we moved because my mom got a job, I lost all my friends then. In the same process I also switched from a finnish school to a swedish school. Ever since I have been lonely. (With the exception that I did get one new friend, but after some years I lost him too.)

1 hour ago, 4201 said:

There's no such thing as understanding only misunderstanding, which explains why you'd ask this question in the first place. There's no such thing as liberation either, Hell is eternal, everywhere and unstoppable and it endlessly gets worse.

The whole idea that there could be a "better place" is only there to make you suffer in comparison to your "current place". This better place is purely imaginary it doesn't actually exist. Other people keep talking about it only because they hate you deeply and they want to make you suffer more. The people you think love you actually hate you the most and they pretend to love you only so they can hurt you more deeply later.

The only reason it is said that "the devil is in hell" is to confuse you even more, to create even more misunderstanding and suffering. It doesn't actually mean anything but to survive as a normal human being in society you have to pretend you understand those things so people don't judge you. In reality you couldn't even understand them if you tried because there's no such thing as understanding.

Again, conditioning and judgement are concepts created by other people in society purposefully for you to have to pretend you understand them while in fact you are totally and physically unable to understang anything. The only thing there is about conditioning is the pain of having been beaten up as a kid and the only thing there is about judgement is being humiliated by other people for having done things that are not in line with their views.

You can pretend to be capable of understanding and make up fake concepts like conditioning and jugements as "tools" to help you "understand" things but all of this is just a play you do on yourself so you could suffer more greatly later. All hope is just build up for a future disappointment. As I said Hell constantly get worse but it has to find ways to get worse and fake hope and dreams are ways it does this. Hell is infinitely intelligent so it will always outsmart you when it comes to this.

There's literally nothing you can do about it, you are entirely powerless and incapable of anything. Other people could do something for you but they won't because they hate you. Acceptance is also fake hope which goes nowhere, the only thing to do is struggle and you'll struggle whether you want to do it or not. Perhaps you think death will let you out but this too is just fake hope. In reality when you die you access a deeper level of Hell where suffering is much worse. 

 

I know I don't have @Blackhawk expertise on this but given he is really busy with struggle, I had to answer for him. If you want to learn more about Hell, I recommend doing the practices. Anti-meditation is a really good technique where you breathe in and out as fast as possible until you can't do it anymore. At this point bang your head against a brick wall 3 times and try again. Another good technique is to think about people in your life and focus on how much you hate them. Be careful to not focus on the feeling but rather, use thinking to justify why you hate them and what wrong they did to you. More importantly, make sure to use confirmation bias to discard any thought which goes against suffering and pain.

That was a bit funny.

[Gili Trawangan]

@Blackhawk Hi Mikael, I've finally recognised you

As before, I hope things turn out better for you eventually. Keep your chin up.

[Blackhawk]

@Gili Trawangan Hi. Thanks.

[Rilles]

1 hour ago, Blackhawk said:

When I was very young I had several friends.

So you have had friends. Which means youre not unlikeable. So scratch that idea from your mind. 

[Nahm]

@4201 ?

[Rilles]

@4201 Nice (thought) story, bro.

[mandyjw]

WOAH. woah. woah. 

The plot twists! My GOD! You guys are all fantastic. A++

?

[Loba]

No I don't see a way out.

how long has this been going on?

I liked that thing about the basket. I don't know what supplies I need.

give it a thought and let us know! ?

[Danioover9000]

@Blackhawk

On 17/10/2021 at 2:57 PM, Blackhawk said:

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   Can you draw and show us what you see in this hell?

[Gianna]

On 10/19/2021 at 9:02 AM, Blackhawk said:

hell is that no one understands you

This is hell right here. How it starts, and how it fortifies. No one is willing to step into your reality. No one. Not even for a second so as to– as you say– understand you. Not only that, but they try to convince you that your reality doesn't exist. This makes it 1,000X worse because it pushes you deeper into it. And no one will acknowledge you in it. It's neglect. And so the message you get is, "You're not worth it. You're not worth considering." It's the worst fucking thing you can experience and yet people don't even care– even when "they do." 

I'll be in hell with you @Blackhawk. I'm already there, lol. We can be in hell together. 

Edited October 21, 2021 by Gianna

[River of Souls]

It's lonely at the top ....

 

That's what I've been saying for a while now ?

 

It fucking sucks to be so different. Sometimes I think to myself that it was easier living inside a box and not knowing truth. 

 

Ignorance is bliss my friend ?

 

All we can do is just hang on. 

[Gianna]

10 minutes ago, River of Souls said:

It's lonely at the top ....

 

That's what I've been saying for a while now ?

 

It fucking sucks to be so different. Sometimes I think to myself that it was easier living inside a box and not knowing truth. 

 

Ignorance is bliss my friend ?

 

All we can do is just hang on. 

Haha. I love this response. So true.