How to masturbate and eyaculate Mechanically (with least possible pleasure )

[Javfly33]

I am not asking because of monk or ascetism ideloogy.

The last 7 days, i have been abstaining from using porn, scrolling Twitter and scrolling Instagram.

What i have felt is like 50% of my mental issue of anxiety/feeling weird/no energy, have completely dissappeared doing those 3 simple things.

My motivational drive have been through the roof. I have also started meditating. Anyways, yesterday night i was kind of depressed i didnt go out and also horny as fuck, so i thought fuck It Im just going to relapse. I tried It to make It as short as possible, try to binging as little as posible in that dopamine mechanism.

Once i masturbated i found out that any kind of sexual stimulation that is fake, in the same way as social media, FUCKS UP YOUR DOPAMINE SYSTEM. In the same way when i cant scroll through Twitter or Instagram, i find myself pushed to go out to feel well, if you Dont make your sexual sistem"learn" that It can get pleasure on a fake way (masturbation porn) It Will 100% be pushed to go out and 1). Approach as Girls as are neccesary 2) become the testosterone men "get the shit done" to be abe to do this. I have find that in this 7 days of increased testosterone, this hormone is so powerful It doesnt Care about my identitiy of nice Guy, It has completely overpowered that identitiy. Which makes me feel quite Happy ?.

So anyways after this LONG POST SORRY, i wanted to Ask, when i relapse Next time, IS there any info in.how to bring yourself to release withouth the least possible pleasure and withouth thinking in sexual fantasy stuff? I want It to be as changning the oil. Robotic, mechanic, asthetic. I want to make my Brain learn the love and experiences are out there, not in a fucking screen ?‍♂️?‍♂️?‍♂️?

 

 

PD;

I have also to add that thanks to no fapping, i def felt my testosterone raising to levels that i havent ever seen in my normal life, some examples, i felt much more violent and "get the shit done", i also lifted weights which i never do. In regards to sexual/attraction Desire to the opposite sex, It felt like mini orgasm through my soul each time i Saw a Hot Girl on the street, But this also frustrates you to the point of going crazy, But the idea about this is that you end Up approaching her because of this. 

[Epikur]

Do it later in the day when you feel tired, without porn, after reading and meditating a lot. 

[Crane Bahnsteik]

You can try masturbation without touching the head of the penis, and instead of focusing on mental imagery focus on the feeling of love itself.

Edited October 19, 2021 by Crane Bahnsteik

[museumoftrees]

Unless you want to use NoFap as a way to make you hornier to approach hordes of women and grow your social skills it's irrelevant to do it. Cut off porn and stop edging yourself for hours but do allow yourself to masturbate and to come. Don't be mechanical about it. Enjoy it. Love it, it's your body. You should love yourself, this is a spirituality forum. Feeling bad about jerking off, calling it a ''relapse'' and wanting to be mechanical about it is deeply toxic.

Maybe if you come from a background of spending hours jerking off and watching porn, masturbate on a schedule. Like once a week, touching yourself on sundays (coming for the lord), no porn etc. By the way, the testosterone doesn't increase past 7 days. So if you jerk off once every 7 days you should be fine.

Also, understand that the motivation and drive is linked to the peaks and valleys of dopamine secretion, not the mere retention of your semen, like these youtube gurus would like you to think.

Study and watch this video to get a deeper understanding of dopamine :

 

[Nahm]

@Javfly33

Grounding.  …just gonna leave that there in a general manor. 

Don’t toss the baby out with the bath water. 

 

[Javfly33]

Thx for the advices guys, relapsed today to findom after longest strike ever...was kinda of depressed because i didnt approached a Girl in over two weeks and horny and decided to relapse..

I Dont even like porn anymore anyways, got rinsed 90€ by a pseudo hottie in minutes, lol such ridiculous shit ?️?anyways tomorrow another day ?

[museumoftrees]

On 10/18/2021 at 9:40 PM, Javfly33 said:

Thx for the advices guys, relapsed today to findom after longest strike ever...was kinda of depressed because i didnt approached a Girl in over two weeks and horny and decided to relapse..

I Dont even like porn anymore anyways, got rinsed 90€ by a pseudo hottie in minutes, lol such ridiculous shit ?️?anyways tomorrow another day ?

Don't attach shame to watching porn lol. Just masturbate without it and don't even think about it. It's not an issue.

[diamondpenguin]

@Javfly33 why? I want masturbation with the most pleasure possible. I wanna feel the love of the universe when I get off, the most intense pleasure. The best thing ever. 

[Javfly33]

19 hours ago, museumoftrees said:

Don't attach shame to watching porn lol. Just masturbate without it and don't even think about it. It's not an issue.

You woudlnt feel humiliated by being drained 90$ in 10 minutes? I´m trying to accept it but its hard. I envy/hate this hot girls so much? Why they take advantage of my horniness and the fact that i put them on a pedestal? Its soooo cruel. This would be illegal if done to women.

[Breakingthewall]

great realizations. They seem silly, but no ... they screw your life. It cost me a lot to stop daily masturbation with porn. Well, and worse than porn, chatting about sex with girls from app dates. It is something that flattens your mind, makes you an idiot. I started there and then I stopped watching series, then movies, then novels ... in the end it seems to me that all that flattens the mind, leaves you dull. the problem is that, as you say, sex calls you. solution 1: real sex. Solution 2: once a week, or every 10 days if you can, you masturbate thoroughly. One day you can without being stupid and depressed. several days no

[Javfly33]

2 hours ago, Breakingthewall said:

great realizations. They seem silly, but no ... they screw your life. It cost me a lot to stop daily masturbation with porn. Well, and worse than porn, chatting about sex with girls from app dates. It is something that flattens your mind, makes you an idiot. I started there and then I stopped watching series, then movies, then novels ... in the end it seems to me that all that flattens the mind, leaves you dull. the problem is that, as you say, sex calls you. solution 1: real sex. Solution 2: once a week, or every 10 days if you can, you masturbate thoroughly. One day you can without being stupid and depressed. several days no

@BreakingthewallYYou hit the nail ? completely agree. I Will follow that plan.

[Average Investor]

@Javfly33

On 10/18/2021 at 6:40 PM, Javfly33 said:

relapsed today to findom

I think more of the issue is revolving around this, then porn in general. You likely have some trauma that you have not dealt with that is allowing this to linger on as an issue in your life. You should consider doing some shadow work on this to really help get some results. You might be able to amplify this kind of work with psychedelics as well. 

 

[Javfly33]

@Average Investor I am kinda tired of shadow work, introspection and psychs. It just more ego games. IME, Sure, its trauma, but its not a trauma that you just "sort out". I think I've done my fair share of "healing" from my house, but now its time to compliment it with real action and reference experiences. 

But I appreciate your post, I just think right now it will be more helpful to focus more in action, meditation, letting go, silencing the mind, and less on personal-story attachments of "I need to sort this out" , "I" have trauma...etc. @Nahm  

[Jacob Morres]

try mindfulness. it might lower your desire to masturbate a bit. when i do it mindfully, it gets boring.