itachi uchiha

There is only 1 level in enlightment

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This video  by shanmugan explains that there is only 1 level of enlightment.u r either enlightened or u r not.there is no degrees and degrees and levels and levels of enlightment.shanmugan is doing meditation since 2003 .so he knows what he is talking about.he is not some rookie

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18 minutes ago, itachi uchiha said:

.shanmugan is doing meditation since 2003 .so he knows what he is talking about.he is not some rookie

There are people who meditate for 60 years and have no clue about what God is.

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36 minutes ago, itachi uchiha said:

doing meditation since 2003 .so he knows what he is talking about.he is not some rookie

Irrelevant. Regardless, yes enlightenment in that sense is all or nothing. But there can be apparent degrees of awakening; samadhi; detachment; peace; insight. When enlightenment apparently happens it is absolutely obvious that there is no fixed reality for the truth of insights to apply to -- so it's very much an on/off switch. It's a revelation -- it levels absolutely everything and nothing, and it's all there is already.

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There are definitely levels of consciousness. Of course consciousness is always present, but your level of being conscious of consciousness can be low, high or in between.

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There seems to be so called levels, degrees or facets. 

In a sense there IS and there ISN'T.... hence the phrase "real and unreal experience".

When the vail drops or the so-called individual experiencer is recognized to be illusory, what's left is what was already EVERYTHING or THIS without separation.

Enlightenment is the end of that experience that something was lacking for someone.

Its the revelation that the seeker attempting to find liberation was only an illusion of self or maya.

Nobody becomes enlightened, nobody crosses the gateless gate. The very one seeking it is the illusory experience of separation.

" the separation never occurred"

 

 

 

 

 

 

 


“Everything is honoured, but nothing matters.” — Eckhart Tolle.

"I have lived on the lip of insanity, wanting to know reasons, knocking on a door. It opens. I've been knocking from the inside." -- Rumi

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9 minutes ago, VeganAwake said:

There seems to be so called levels, degrees or facets. 

In a sense there IS and there ISN'T.... hence the phrase "real and unreal experience".

When the vail drops or the so-called individual experiencer is recognized to be illusory, what's left is what was already EVERYTHING or THIS without separation.

Enlightenment is the end of that experience that something was lacking for someone.

Its the revelation that the seeker attempting to find liberation was only an illusion of self or maya.

Nobody becomes enlightened, nobody crosses the gateless gate. The very one seeking it is the illusory experience of separation.

" the separation never occurred"

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

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There ain't one enlightenment there are totally facets too...  

Meditation is just one path towards a type of awakening/ increase in awareness... 

So, he only knows that path. So what? His opinion isn't Truth itself. Once you walk many paths you see, ahhh there is more than one facet. 

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