Posted October 6, 2021 (edited) I don't understand why Owen Cook is still fat. He's filthy rich, "has his own gym", doesn't drink, eats organic food & "hasn't got sick since 2012". Yet he's somehow fat still wtf ? Tbf I think it suits him more than skinny some reason, makes him more amusing but still I don't get it, he's not an Endomorph either I don't think. * Also why do so many of these self help guys not workout & get muscular either? Such a basic easy habit but so many don't do it (although it wouldn't suit Owen). Edited October 6, 2021 by Striving for more Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 6, 2021 My guess is that he just loves food a lot. Little addictions can be really hard to break. Addictions that are not necessarily directly destroying your life, but still have a negative impact on you in the long run. Addictions like food, cigarettes and porn RIP Roe V Wade 1973-2022 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 6, 2021 5 minutes ago, vizual said: My guess is that he just loves food a lot. That's fair enough but why isn't he at least authentic and honest about it? He continually laments how "we put garbage food in our mouths & constantly numb ourselves" and makes out that he eats organic and doesn't have addictions, and makes money of self help content. It seems pretty hypocritical & dishonest if that's the case ... If he genuinely loves food & is happier this way & has no regrets about it & is intentionally fat & enjoying himself I think that's fine ... it's just at least be honest about it ... Plus I dont think you can get that fat from eating a purely organic green diet, no matter how many vegetables you eat, which he claims to .. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 6, 2021 You can definitely get fat on an organic diet. Even a full vegan diet with healthy foods. i think the only diet a person would struggle to gain weight on is a fruitarian diet, but even then it’s not impossible. These addictions like food addictions can run really deep, deeper than the average person is usually conscious of. A lot of times it’s already ingrained from a young age so it’s nested within the ego identity. Using food as an escape from reality unconsciously. Living your days from meal to meal. It doesn’t mean he’s lying. It can mean that he just hasn’t gained the awareness of his relationship with food. And our relationship with food runs very deep in our psyche because it is directly linked to our human survival. So food is also one of the hardest areas to change your beliefs on. RIP Roe V Wade 1973-2022 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 6, 2021 31 minutes ago, vizual said: You can definitely get fat on an organic diet. Even a full vegan diet with healthy foods. Yea nuts are so easy to eat and they have a lot of calories. I can easily eat the calories for the day in one sitting with them. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 6, 2021 @Striving for more Everyone has their weak spots. I’ve never struggled with weight so it is a bit bizarre when I see people who can’t stay lean. Seems so easy. But that’s my bias. Other things I find hard Owen would likely find laughably easy. If you’re expecting self-help gurus to be perfect, you’re going to be disappointed. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 6, 2021 Whats his incentive to do so? You don't have to be ripped or muscular to be healthy being a little overweight or underweight is fine as long as you have energy, have decent cardio health and feel good. Be honest most people workout out to look good for others or themselves theres nothing wrong with it but its the truth, mabey owen has no incentive to improve because he beliefs his body isnt going to get in the way of what he wants Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 6, 2021 (edited) 45 minutes ago, Bando said: mabey owen has no incentive to improve because he beliefs his body isnt going to get in the way of what he wants That's fair enough yeah just fully read my comments to understand my confusion. IMO being strong and muscular is extremely healthy and beneficial. Looking good is merely a by product and 1 benefit of having a strong and healthy body, the more muscle mass and less body fat the better. I'm not a healthy person anyway, but even if you're unhealthy it's better to be strong and ripped than not, it still has numerous countless benefits that are mostly obvious Edited October 6, 2021 by Striving for more Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 6, 2021 26 minutes ago, Striving for more said: the more muscle mass and less body fat the better. No you need a balance. If you have a lot of muscle you are putting pressure on your heart and reducing longevity. If you drop your body fat percentage below 10 ish percent you will start losing energy, it will mess up your hormones, women can lose their periods... and if you come close to 0 you'll die. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 6, 2021 I have gone to vegan restaurants before, and they cover the disgusting soy “meats” with sauces loaded with sugar to improve the taste. It is no healthier than eating a big mac. Vincit omnia Veritas. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 7, 2021 He blames it on the fact that he only sleeps 3-4 hours a night Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 7, 2021 Seems like he's stressed out, over-worked, and let himself go a bit. He's like a hamster in a wheel, running hard but staying in the same place. You are God. You are Truth. You are Love. You are Infinity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 7, 2021 10 minutes ago, Leo Gura said: Seems like he's stressed out, over-worked, and let himself go a bit. He's like a hamster in a wheel, running hard but staying in the same place. What do you think about his transition from the pickup content to the more all-encompassing self-help label? He mentions a lot of stuff related to spirituality too. Do you think he's actually becoming more conscious as he gets older or he's literally hamster wheeling to keep up with the times? Owner of creatives community all around Canada as well as a business mastermind Follow me on Instagram @Kylegfall <3 Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 7, 2021 52 minutes ago, LordFall said: What do you think about his transition from the pickup content to the more all-encompassing self-help label? He mentions a lot of stuff related to spirituality too. Do you think he's actually becoming more conscious as he gets older or he's literally hamster wheeling to keep up with the times? I don't see that his content has really changed, he's just rebranded it to avoid mainstream backlash. He's still fundamentally stuck on chasing girls. He can't seem to get that out of his system. I think that to truly evolve he would have to give up chasing girls. That seems like his biggest attachment, so he's in a tough spot. How do you surrender the very thing which made you who you are? What would Owen even do with himself if he wasn't chasing girls? He's not the kind of guy who can sit around all day peacefully under a tree. I'm not denying that there are spiritual aspects to his work, but he's been talking about spirituality for over 10 years. So that's not new. It's spiritual, but not that deep. You are God. You are Truth. You are Love. You are Infinity. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 7, 2021 (edited) 1 hour ago, Emotionalmosquito said: He blames it on the fact that he only sleeps 3-4 hours a night The guy literally has 8-9 figures, lives in LA and escaped wage slavery over 10 years ago ? He doesn't look like he sleeps 4 hours. He has the most relaxed face & voice, and good for him but I don't perceive any stress. Edited October 7, 2021 by Striving for more Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 7, 2021 11 minutes ago, Leo Gura said: I don't see that his content has really changed, he's just rebranded it to avoid mainstream backlash. He's still fundamentally stuck on chasing girls. He can't seem to get that out of his system. I think that to truly evolve he would have to give up chasing girls. But how do you know he's still focused on that? I don't follow him tightly enough nor hang out with him so how could you make such a claim? "Chasing" is slightly pejorative presumably he would just have girls / a girl and not be "chasing" at this stage, given that he's meant to be an experienced pick up artist? Or do you mean he's still stuck going to club & picking them up every day ... Again I don't know much about him from the pick up side. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 7, 2021 4 hours ago, aurum said: @Striving for more Other things I find hard Owen would likely find laughably easy. Would be interesting to hear you list some examples if u know any ... (would also help me understand what owen's actual strengths that are my weakness So I can listen to him with purpose) Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 7, 2021 Avoid falling into this common trap @Striving for more. Spend your time focusing exclusively on yourself and your own aspects. Don't worry about others or if they are being hypocrites or not, all irrelevant. What matters is the information and if it's useful or not to you, the messenger is a distraction. hrhrhtewgfegege Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 7, 2021 26 minutes ago, Leo Gura said: How do you surrender the very thing which made you who you are? What would Owen even do with himself if he wasn't chasing girls? He's not the kind of guy who can sit around all day peacefully under a tree. In that case it looks like it’s time for him to give psychedelics a chance. It’s gonna be a hard sell because he’s always prided himself on not needing them because his mindset is already “trippy enough as it is” (paraphrasing) I predict he’ll end up taking the plunge at some point. Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
Posted October 7, 2021 Have no idea who this guy was so I had to google him lol. He looks like fine. Not fat imo. Looks like a normal guy in his 40s. Some people are just built different. Not everyone has to be skinny and/or muscular. I have faith in the person I am becoming https://www.theupwardspiral.blog/ Share this post Link to post Share on other sites
