How long does one need to wait between ceremonies?

[Sempiternity]

I've heard people say to not do 5-MEO more than once a week, or every other week. Why couldn't 5-MEO be done every other day (giving one day for rest, recovery, and integration) for a short period of time, say 2-4 weeks? Upping the dose a little each time.

I guess it also depends on if we're talking a ceremony ending in an Awakening or not. I can see how after a full blown Awakening is experienced, to take some time to integrate that. But, if it's just a trip, I don't see the harm in doing it more frequent than once a week, or once every other week. Thoughts?

 

[impulse9]

Idk about 5meo specifically but most psychedelics you simply can't do every day because your tolerance gets so high you would need a ridiculous dose to feel the effects. Other than that it's just ill advisable to do it that frequently, because that gives you no chance to ground yourself and integrate.

[Sempiternity]

Pretty sure 5-MEO does not build tolerance, but the opposite, as the more you use, the less you have to take to get the same effect, but I could be wrong on that. 

[halfknots]

My facilitator said I could come back whenever I am ready. This is a deeply personal consideration to make, and it depends on one's baseline consciousness going in to the ceremony as well as how the ceremony is integrated. This is  true for all psychedelics, and all experiences in a general sense.

[Thought Art]

Intuition is important however, when you are ungrounded you don't always know you are. Back to back trips is opening, opening, opening the mind up. You need to open it and close it. Close it and let the ego restore, give time to process the insights as often when you are first tripping the insights are half baked.

You shouldn't be making life changing decisions 2 weeks after a trip as well. So, if you are tripping and changing a lot all at once you may do things you later regret.

 I would personally do it once a week and no more.However, during trip day you can do multiple trips no problem. Martin Ball recommends 3 break throughs in a session if vaping for example.  Or if you are plugging you can do back to back plugs. As long as you are measuring everything, and using your intuition during the sessions you should be fine. But don't get cocky I think. Always follow protocol and moderation is key.

Over dosing 5meo can be a cuz for mishaps. You aren't likely to overdose in a lethal way as far as I can tell. Even with Malt, you may just pass out or go deep for 30 minutes to an hour where you are debilitated physically....  drooling and rolling around... Which is dangerous if you are tripping alone. Always roll to your side if that happens to avoid choking on spit or puke. But, so stick to the low to moderate doses also. But, it's up to you to learn about the substance in your own way.

For the sake of your mental health, and overall life responsibilities do yourself a favour and space them out at least 7 days is my protocol. Also, I assume if you wanted to trip multiple days close together you can plan a retreat. But, more trip more risk. up to you. Retreats with multiple back to back trips should also be planned with an integration and safety protocols.

It's important to have a week or 2 to be completely sober, to take care of your responsibilities, meditate, journal, read, keep track of your finances. You want to make sure you stay grounded and in life.

When you exercise you need to make sure you are resting. 

Edited October 9, 2021 by Thought Art

[JuliusCaesar]

5 MEO DMT definitely has reverse tolerance(when you do it, you become more sensitive to it as opposed to less). So if you do back to back sessions the experience will become potentiated. The same is true of NM-DMT, and Salvia as well. Other psychedelics like LSD and Psilocin however create tolerance so you definitely want to wait until you reach baseline(which takes something like two weeks) before you do them again. As otherwise you'll need to take exponentially larger doses to trip with the same intensity as the first time(which gets expensive quickly).

[Nahm]

On 10/3/2021 at 3:16 PM, Sempiternity said:

But, if it's just a trip, I don't see the harm in doing it more frequent than once a week, or once every other week. Thoughts?

You don’t see it, but you’re thinkin, expressing a hunch, that there is. 

What is it? 

You tell us hunchman. 

[Thought Art]

UH OH! Chronic Use alert

 

Edited October 9, 2021 by Thought Art

[JuliusCaesar]

6 hours ago, Nahm said:

You don’t see it, but you’re thinkin, expressing a hunch, that there is. 

What is it? 

You tell us hunchman. 

Hahaha "just a trip" he says.