Meditating 2 Hours Every Day - 1 Year Later (& Psychedelics vs. Meditation)

[Consilience]

2 hours ago, archi said:

@Consilience 

Congratulation, just 2h per day for 1y is zero in terms of time of the universe. 

 Without Leo's or similar explorations it is difficult to grasp the is-ness.

 The order of understanding is as in @Leo Gura quote:

"You are God. You are Love. You are Infinity. You are Leo." 

Contemplating  in the reverse order .... who am I?  what am I?  who is the other ? what is this ?

 

I know ? my practice is peanuts compared to the grandiosity of cosmic time scales. It’s also peanuts compared to real mystics out there, but doing my best. 
 

Love the contemplations ❤️

[Consilience]

10 minutes ago, r0ckyreed said:

Wonderful post! I totally agree! Psychedelics are a cop out for grooving fully with the present moment. Psychedelics is this forums new hamster wheel where they are a rat in a maze chasing cheese after cheese. Chasing trip after trip after trip, while ignorantly failing to realize that the real psychedelic experience is right here and now. You don’t need a chemical to connect with God. If you aren’t high on life, and you need a drug to be high, then something is wrong. You gotta meditate and contemplate why you want drugs. It’s another cheese you are chasing the same way Trump chases women and money. 

Thank you man. Not sure Id go as far as to say it’s like Trump chasing women ? But I see your point.

Just to reiterate though, I have explored psychedelics more intensely than 99% of the population, and more intensely than the overwhelming majority of the population that’s explored psychedelics. So please understand Im not anti-psychedelic. 

What Im advocating is the appreciation and recognition of just how powerful meditation is when done without the conceptual baggage of “meditation is pitiful compared to the power of psychedelics. Ill never be God realized while meditating!” All of the recent rhetoric on the forum regarding meditation vs psychedelics primarily lead by Leo, I view as bullshit, essentially. But please know Im not against psychedelic exploration, in fact I believe it has played a pivotal role with my success with meditation. The difference between me and others on the forum, it seems, I reacted from the psychedelics with an increase in the intensity, respect and appreciation for just how deep this practice goes. 

That being said, ya dude Im groovin with ya in that Now ?

[nistake]

Got inspired and challanged myself that I'm gonna meditate 2 hours as well everyday this week. After that, we'll see

[r0ckyreed]

@Consilience What is your go-to meditation practice?

I usually combine meditation and contemplation by looking at my hands and trying to look for my head. I do a contemplative practice just to contemplate life purpose and stuff. But I do satisfaction meditation every day along with productive meditation or contemplation.

I have read Mind Illuminated about halfway. I need to reread it again because I forgot a lot of it.

I prefer contemplation over meditation. I do like 10 minute meditation and an hour of contemplation a day. I am a natural contemplator. In my experience, I have experienced greater insights and understanding through contemplation, but I also noticed that meditation has made me more peaceful and present. I use to be future-oriented, but meditation taught me that Now is what matters. Future and past are hallucinations.

What books on meditation do you recommend? What is your go-to practice?

Thanks. Nice video btw!

Edited October 4, 2021 by r0ckyreed

[Leilani]

@Leo Gura @Consilience I feel like Leo no one will ever say something that is satisfactory enough for you to agree that they are on your "level" I also knew of this before I ever watched your videos and understood that love is all there is and that everything is God. I actually found more people who understood this in a crappy little town in Oregon with people who had crappy parents and very little social status than people who seemed very "spiritual"We all became like family and had some amazing talks and insights. 

[ZhenZhenZhen]

Thank you for this post. Recently started meditating for 2 hours everyday as well and it has been a challenge for my addicted mind. But all obstacles will be overcome. 

[Leo Gura]

3 hours ago, Leilani said:

@Leo Gura @Consilience I feel like Leo no one will ever say something that is satisfactory enough for you to agree that they are on your "level"

I am gonna push people until they really get it.

Some will get it and it will be obvious. I am very careful not to take anyone's words as true when they say they know God or Love. There are many degrees of knowing it, and for most people their knowledge of God and Love is a rain puddle when I want it to be an ocean.

I have been fooled many times before with people claiming they get it when they actually don't. And myself used to think I got it when actually I was only swimming in that rain puddle.

[Moksha]

@Consilience Amen and hallelujah. ? I agree 100%.

You call out one of the cardinal lines I've seen in this forum. Let's call it north-south. People tend to flock to one side or the other. Psychedelics vs. meditation, as if there is only one path that has spiritual value.

The other cardinal line is east-west, or ultimate vs. relative reality. Some insist that ultimate reality is all that matters, and the dream is a fantasy to be dismissed. Others champion the celebration of the dream, even knowing it for what it is.

Lines are inevitably divisive and egoic. We are all the same, seamless Consciousness, and yet we draw these lines like children, within the coloring book of the cosmos. Indivision intersects with division.

Maybe it is possible to realize the serenity of unity and the creativity of division, while appreciating the reality and the beauty of both.

[peanutspathtotruth]

@Consilience Wow, what an amazing post, thank you for sharing your lovely journey and insights. Somehow this hit home for me since my focus seems very similar to yours.
Inte-fucking-gration!! It's key and it totally transforms consciousness/sadhana just as consciousness/sadhana transforms the integration.

[Leilani]

@Leo Gura @Consilience But how are you going to know based off of people's replies on the forum? Also curious if you think Teal Swan and Anita moorjani get it? 

[Loba]

Makes me want to try it.  That's dedication, good job.

[Leo Gura]

23 minutes ago, Leilani said:

@Leo Gura @Consilience But how are you going to know based off of people's replies on the forum? Also curious if you think Teal Swan and Anita moorjani get it? 

It's not hard to tell based on how people write and speak about God.

Teal no. Never heard of other one.

[impulse9]

Eckhart Tolle doesn't talk about God much, except in metaphor.  I consider him a realized master. Words aren't that important, this work is about the non-conceptual which can't be worded anyway. Even if you write 10000 books, you can't do Truth justice. You should know that.

[impulse9]

On 10/3/2021 at 6:11 PM, Consilience said:

 

 

 

Finally got a chance to watch through the video as well. 

Holy crap man. When you talk about the mundane vs mystical, "the mystical starts to become the mundane and the mundane starts to become mystical". I got a serious Zen jolt hearing that. Yes! Of course. This is exactly and precisely it.

I feel this is what Leo might be missing. The fact that this duality between the mystical and the mundane experience collapses as you spiritually mature, such that your highest mystical visions become irrelevant, and simply looking at a stream of flowing water becomes the experience of profound divinity. This is what the game is, fundamentally. A snake eating its own tail. A grand coincidentia oppositorum.

Really digging your whole vibe so you got a sub.

[Consilience]

10 hours ago, nistake said:

Got inspired and challanged myself that I'm gonna meditate 2 hours as well everyday this week. After that, we'll see

Hell yes man! Good luck and more importantly, have fun! 
 

10 hours ago, r0ckyreed said:

@Consilience What is your go-to meditation practice?

I usually combine meditation and contemplation by looking at my hands and trying to look for my head. I do a contemplative practice just to contemplate life purpose and stuff. But I do satisfaction meditation every day along with productive meditation or contemplation.

I have read Mind Illuminated about halfway. I need to reread it again because I forgot a lot of it.

I prefer contemplation over meditation. I do like 10 minute meditation and an hour of contemplation a day. I am a natural contemplator. In my experience, I have experienced greater insights and understanding through contemplation, but I also noticed that meditation has made me more peaceful and present. I use to be future-oriented, but meditation taught me that Now is what matters. Future and past are hallucinations.

What books on meditation do you recommend? What is your go-to practice?

Thanks. Nice video btw!

First, thank you!  

My go to meditation practice recently has been the "do nothing" technique, just sitting down in a space of complete surrender, except if I notice "trying" to surrender, then I surrender that lol. This is after having done tons of work with normal shamatha and vipassana techniques like those outlined in The Mind Illuminated or for example, Seeing That Frees/Shinzen's See Hear Feel technique. 

Honestly, if contemplation is what resonates do that! I think the big piece is the silence and stillness of formal practice. If that practice is holding a question and trying to directly experience something's fundamental nature, great! In a sense, this is what we're doing with meditation, but it's not quite as direct. 

Since you're really into contemplation, I would HIGHLY recommend Zen Flesh, Zen Bones. It's a book of koans that you can use as meditation objects during a form sit, or just read and contemplate as you read. 

Other books, The Mind Illuminated, Seeing That Frees, Mastering the Core Teachings of The Buddha, Science of Enlightenment, The Book of Not Knowing, Pursuing Consciousness. If you embodied what's in all of these books, you'd be a full blow Buddha haha. 

[Leilani]

@Leo Gura That is interesting that you say that about Teal as she describes people as a thought in the mind of God. That basically people are a thought that now thinks.  Anita Moorjani had an NDE where she went very far not as far as some others I have heard but far for sure. 

also curious what you think about this womens NDE. She is a friend of mine who also has autism and I love the way she writes its so beautiful.

'I crossed into a state that was deep, fundamental, irreducible. An ocean of exquisite sensitivity, of omnisentience (sensing everywhere at once), turned me inside out to reveal itself at the core. Losing every sense of distinction, I floated as part of this gloriously intelligent web of light. Even the

awesome flavors and energies from previous states of consciousness looked trivial compared to this luminous irreducible force, this field of existence. It seemed to be an order of magnitude different from the earlier experiences. This was the force of consciousness itself. There was no 'I' left whatsoever, not even the broad perspective from the life review. My boundaries as a human and as a spirit were completely erased. Witnessing from a localized single point, my perspective was simultaneously spread through the multidimensional, nonlocalized perspective of the entire web. There was no end and no beginning, like the lake underneath the forms that dance through our lives. This was beyond bliss, beyond truth, beyond peace and ecstasy and all the searing emotions of the previous stages. It was stillness in the middle, consciousness without form.

I had just viscerally witnessed prayers and intentions became physical, tangible reality. (In using the word 'prayer' I mean something an atheist could easily do as well as a theologian û no special form, just focused will propeled by the power of love and concern. ) It was made known to me that this was Consciousness creating Form through Intention. Nothing exists until it rises into form on this

field. Every single bit of material in the world  even the computer or paper you're reading this on, and the stardust that nourishes your marrow, and the paint on the wall, and the dog you love, and each single hair on his loppy ear must have begun there on the sacred field of consciousness, shaped by the impulse of intention. There is no 'there' there. Coming back into this human life, this is the singlemost vision that set my mind back to zero, like a

child, as I struggled to understand how to interact in this world again  this world of imaginary objects and entitities.

 

[Leilani]

@Leo Gura Also This NDE!!!!!!! I am telling you Leo These people who have had NDES really know what you are talking about. I came in this world very sensitive and aware and went through tons of suffering so I would try and question and reach for this love that I felt. This love that I had despite so much abuse. Ndes seemed to be my safe haven. 

Just before death, July 30, 1994:

That morning I had driven about 400 miles with my secretary from San Francisco for a couple of meetings with some clients. For some reason, throughout that day I had been feeling somewhat uneasy, like this was a premonition of sorts. So, I had been in a quiet prayer mode the whole day. I had been invited by one of my clients, in the city of Glendora, for their 80-year-old mother’s birthday celebration. Afterwards, it was almost 11:30 p.m. by the time I was able to call it a day and leave for the hotel.

I had thought that I would tell my secretary I was extremely tired and it would be better if she was the one to drive back to San Francisco after the birthday part. As destiny would have it, I was so tired I forgot to tell her while very mechanically getting into the driver's seat. Seatbelts were not mandatory in 1994. Without bothering to put on my seat belt, I started the car and began driving. After about 10 minutes on the road, car with two young boys was driving in the left lane. Suddenly, it swerved to the right, coming into my lane right in front of me, then stopping abruptly at the Stop sign that was just ahead. I had nowhere to go, so I slammed on the brakes; or so I thought! In my immediate shock and sleepy exhaustion, I had pressed down on the accelerator instead! The 560 SL is designed to go from 0 mph to 60 mph within seconds and that’s just what it did. I shot forward at full speed! CRAAAASH!

In that moment of impact, I felt my whole body lift up, fly forward with great force, and hitting something. Next thing I knew, I was seeing this white stream of Light, travelling inside my body, which was also filled with a brilliant electric white Light! It looked like light travelling in light. As I looked at this moving light energy, I realized I was also experiencing it. This powerful, white energy which was moving from my solar plexus towards the top of my head. I was moving very fast. Yet, simultaneously, I appeared to be moving very slowly. Somehow, it seemed very natural for my movement to be slow and fast at the same time. Was I in perfect balance? There was no sense of duality. I knew that this light energy was my Prana, otherwise called life force. The Prana was moving upwards through my body, almost as if being pulled by some sort of magnetic power above my head. Just then, I experienced a sinking feeling, very much like one feels when beginning the plunge down a roller coaster. I felt myself go into a gentle convulsion with an upward movement.

The next moment it was all gone. There was no light, no body, or anything. It was the strangest feeling, and yet so familiar. It was as though I had before experienced it many times. Without the body, I found myself floating alone in a dark void. I was totally confused as to where I was and what was really happening. All I could see was total darkness everywhere, but I wasn't afraid.

At a distance, I saw a pale golden vehicle-like thing in the shape of a small boat. The boat was brilliant in its golden hue and it was coming towards me. The center hollow portion of this golden boat seemed to be filled with that same shimmering, brilliant white light I had seen inside my body. As it moved closer, I could see in the center on its ‘bed’ of white Light there was a very ethereal human body. The body was lying very still on its back, draped in a pale golden gown and glowing gloriously in the dark night. It was a magnificent sight to behold! As it came closer, my entire being went into shock when I saw the face of this body. It was me. 'Oh my God', I realized, 'I am dead.' I was completely jolted by this truth. I looked at myself for the first time and saw I had no body. I was just a spark of Light and was now linked to this sparkling boat. Almost immediately, the golden boat tilted upwards with the feet of the motionless body pointing upwards and head below it. The boat transported me faster than the speed of light, almost like a thunderbolt slicing through the dark night and disappearing into that void.

Almost as if I had fully woken up after a long sleep, I found myself surrounded by an All-Pervasive Brilliance. There was no boat, no body structure, no dark void, nothing. There was only this dazzling, electrifying, brilliant white Light all around. The light was everywhere. There was nothing except this brilliant Consciousness! It seemed to have a consistency of the ever-finest, minutest electric-like sparkles and was energetically similar to the ‘bed of Light’ I had come on, except that this light was all-pervasive, limitless. It could perhaps be compared to the light of thousands of brilliant stars reflected in millions of sparkling diamonds, all-encompassing, self-luminous, and pulsating with electric energy: very delicate and smooth. I seemed to know that the light was the Supreme Infinite Light that is God, the Cosmic Consciousness.

It is truly impossible to describe in mere mortal words, this Pure Love, this vital energy, this infinite Light, this Supreme Absolute Consciousness, This Presence, which is commonly referred to by most of humanity as God or the Creator: it can only be experienced! So please forgive my humble effort with limited vocabulary to try and share what I experienced. At this moment, I was literally standing on air and was an electric body of Light. I was in this dazzling white void, this Brilliant Nothingness, filled with comfort, delight, and a deep knowing that I had reached my destination.

I seemed to know that this was the Ultimate White Effulgent Light. Experiencing myself as a shimmering sparkling white-light energy, pulsating with some kind of ethereal (ether-real!) electric life force, my Being was flooded with a gentle, very expansive Love energy. The energy was like a soft embrace from that all-encompassing Light Presence! This Light Presence of pure, unconditional Love seemed to be in me and around me. It was all-pervasive and extended into infinity. Strangely, there seemed to be no difference between this light and my Light-being. Even more bewildering, was that this Conscious Loving Presence, seemed to be the nature and substance of all of existence. In sheer delight, my Light-self was almost skipping in the air as a further wave of knowing passed through me. I whispered to myself, ‘This is the real me!’ In complete wonderment, with a sense of déjà vu and awe, I heard myself say, ‘I know this place, I know this place. I've been here before. I made it. I finally made it back!’

Drinking in the nectar of the Loving Presence which enfolded me, I saw with complete amazement a very interesting transference starting to happen. There was a string of atoms starting to flow out from within the left side of my electric body and they disappeared upwards into nowhere. Almost as if from thin air, a much finer frequency of atoms seemed to be appear and were entering through my right side into this same electric light body. I was watching and experiencing at the same time, again with no sense of duality. My entire Being was being totally emptied, refueled, and re-programmed with this ethereal, orderly, interchange of atoms. I saw that the new entry was made of a vastly different energy and seemed to have a much more expansive and delicate DNA energy. It had a new wave of very lightweight, subtle cellular frequencies, as they spiraled in, expanding and changing the previous electric body formation.

All of the above was happening very fast and yet it seemed to take an eternity. Enfolded in the comforting wrap of Pure Divine Love during this cellular exchange, it seemed as though I was gradually disappearing with the atoms leaving this electric Light body. Almost as if, another ‘me’ was birthing through the newer, finer atoms entering into this Light form. My whole being was cleansed and purified, making it ready for its next role in God’s divine drama.

I wished to take a final look and say goodbye to the world I had just left behind. I looked over behind my non-existent shoulder, somehow expecting to see my world; but, to my complete shock, I saw that there was nothing there. My earthly world didn't seem to exist! There was no world, no universe, no galaxy, no earth, nothing! Nothing existed, except this soft Conscious Presence, this pulsating Brilliance, this pure Love that was everywhere as all pure white Light. ‘Oh my God, how could that be?!’ I exclaimed to myself. ‘Where has it gone? What about all I went through as Arti? It was all real! How could it have just disappeared?’

A gentle response seemed to come from the cosmic wisdom that was all around, ‘But how could it be Real, when it has just disappeared?’ There was so much knowledge that was shared with me that I can't share it all here. The response said, ‘What is real is only that which is permanent and changeless. That which changes, is within the mirage of time, and truly non-existent. Consciousness, however, as a gentle, delicate, smooth, flowing Presence is ever present; even within the human form, above and beyond the mind, as it is the Experience-less-ness underlying all experience. It never changes, never disappears, and it is therefore, the only Reality.’

I asked, ‘But if this Consciousness alone is real, the world was an illusion? Then where did it come from?’

It replied, ‘Like all manifestation, the world too is the creation of the great illusion or great delusion, which being the Creative aspect of this Supreme Consciousness, or the Lord, is the divine movie-projector of life, in the all-powerful play of the realm of Creation. Just as a mirage in the desert disappears when viewed from a certain perspective, your life as Arti on earth has disappeared, when viewed from the perspective of the Divine Self, where you are now. Only the eternal is real; and from the viewpoint of that Reality, all that is non-eternal, disappears. Yet of course, you, being eternal Atman (the soul) can still view the ‘world of illusion’ if you wish.’

I asked, ‘So my life as Arti never really existed at all, it was an illusion?’

It replied, ‘Oh, it existed; just as a dream exists, or a movie, or a mirage.’

I continued questioning, ‘So the world, was just a figment of my imagination? How did I create it? With my thoughts and desires?’

The reply echoed all around me, ‘Y-e-s-s-s-s!’ as it reverberated within my being.

Y e s: I understood now. The world had all been only in my mind, a thought-and-senses created illusion/delusion. Without the senses, mind and body, there was now no ego to perceive the world illusion! It had all existed and happened only in my mind! Our true reality exists outside of the mind, which is where I was at the present moment. I realized the true vastness of my Being and the minuscule nature of the cage of the earthly body. The roles I had played through the many lifetime dramas with different bodies, flashed again into knowing. I smiled, seeing there was absolutely no attachment whatsoever to any of them! How could I, when it was just a play of mind? I had come to terms with the fact that once I, my ego consciousness, left the body, my mind-created world also disappeared.

Universal laws seemed to unfold rapidly and poured into my entire electric-wave body. I realized that the real goal of the mind-created life game was to remove the veil of delusion and ignorance and reach the Ultimate Truth of one's reality in life itself. This Truth, this Self I was bathing in and which had encompassed my Being, was nothing but Love. The Truth was Love; pure, unconditional, Universal Love, that is almost non-achievable in human terms. It was the fabric of this Consciousness of which I was a part. Yes, because Love is God and God is Love. It was very clear that the cosmic composition was made up of nothing but Love! Love is the God-glue that is holding ‘All’ together. I realized I was not just inside the Love but rather, one with 'It', this Universal Body of Love, of God. This was completely natural to me, as flame is to fire because it is fire. This was Home and I wanted to be here forever.

Immediately with the emergence of this thought-wish, the ego-wave that was Arti, seemed to gracefully meld into the Supreme Presence, dissolving into that Ocean of Love. Arti as the earthly Arti, was no more. An incredible wave of freedom splashed over my being, almost like coming out scrubbed fresh and clean after a long overdue bath. The cellular interchange of atoms with their spiraling exit and entry had stopped because re-programming of my electric light body was completed. I was birthing a new life later known as Mira S. I knew without a doubt that life on earth was just a playground of experience, an assignment from God, a mirror projection of the Divine. In each new lifetime, as the soul makes spiritual progress, its vibrational frequency gets tuned to a faster, higher and finer level depending upon its degree of evolution. The transformation continues until the frequency level is fine-tuned to such a degree that it connects with the frequency of the Cosmos itself, which then allows it to gain entry into Cosmic Consciousness, one’s true self, which is eternal bliss, otherwise known as ananda.

In the Light Presence, everything and anything could be readily created or manifested. It was in the Nature of this Supreme Presence. Everyone and everything, anywhere, was right here where I was, present in the seemingly invisible NOW. One just had to think it, and it was available. The transformation-transmutation within my electric body being completed, the electric body too, was no more visible because there was complete Oneness. It was infinite to such a degree that I was no more, and yet I was that Consciousness. There was nothing else and No other.

Oh dear God, That is all that exists, the only 'Being' that is! That Consciousness was all around, inside, outside, above, below. It was everywhere! The ALL! As one touched by the Philosopher’s stone, which is said to transform iron into gold, I had gone through a complete transformation and transmutation of the previous self into birthing a new higher self. I was bringing with it an immediate awakening into the ‘knowing’ of Universal Truths and the Reality of Supreme Self. This magnificent All-pervasive Effulgence was so glorious! It was true, there is only one Being, one God, and THAT is the true Self of all. All are just a reflection of God: All are That One. I, too, was That One. THAT is my Reality. I was brimming, overflowing with the supreme knowing that The Supreme Being is my own true Self, my true identity. It was here, now, and always. There is no past or future; it is all happening constantly in the now.

Losing it all, dissolving, I was, ‘I AM THAT I AM’ (Aham Brahmasmi) I knew that I was and I AM all there was to know! Just like myself, all of creation wherever and however it existed; whether human, animal, mammal, plant, or nature, all were full in themselves. All were and are God, a beautiful glorious expression of that same Fullness. Creation was just Divinity experiencing itself through Its Creation!! I was bathing in Consciousness, as Consciousness. I was enjoying this bliss of Union with the Absolute, Divine Self, God, and Full with wholeness of Being. I wanted only to remain as this Cosmic Being forever.

I never want to be separate again from this Oneness, this All-encompassing Love! This was my feeling, as a faint memory of the world of separateness wafted into my consciousness and anxiousness seemed to take over all of a sudden. I heard myself repeat twice, ‘Where do I go from here? Where do I go from here?’ By the formation of destiny, which is created by our actions and reactions, the newly transformed Being of myself now in existence, having received a downpour of higher Truths and realizing its Higher Self from having merged in Oneness with It. I knew that it had been brought within and as, the pure energy of That One, of pure white Light for a reason, so an element of wonderment was there at what might be coming next?

Much to my dismay, however, the All-Pervasive KNOWING came through with a much different response than what I was expecting. Coming loud and clear, It reverberated through that infinite space of Consciousness, ‘You have to go back. You have to do the Work’ communicating that my real work on Earth was to begin now. I called out, ‘Please I don't want to go back! I'm very happy here!!’ But the Lord, Supreme Consciousness had spoken, and it had to be.

Right then, I saw a long flexible kind of tunnel which almost looked like a huge hollow umbilical cord. I could actually see the outside and inside of it. Inside it I saw the form of an unborn human baby, with golden, light-colored skin, curled up like a fetus against the inner wall. 'So this is the Cosmic Womb Tunnel,' I thought. It seemed to be coming from infinity and spiraling downwards. But as I looked at it carefully, I exclaimed in alarm, ‘Oh no, not again!’ when I realized that I was that baby, speeding down headfirst, as the curled-up fetus in this cosmic tunnel-like womb, I was crossing the dimensional barriers. I thought, 'Oh God, oh no, I really was going back into Earth consciousness to be reborn!'

Next thing I knew, I heard myself let out a cry. I had opened my human eyes. They were looking in the rear view mirror of a car at a mouth bleeding profusely with the whole lower face covered in blood. In a complete daze, feeling totally disoriented, I touched the face in the mirror and realized it was my mouth! I thought, 'Oh God, I have a human body again! I really am back.' The lower gum-bone had been broken and lay flat on my tongue. The four lower front teeth had come out of their gum sockets but were still held by their nerves as they sat on my tongue in the middle of the mouth. Upon touching my face, I could feel tiny particles of glass from the shattered windshield all over my upper face and even my eyelashes, but none, not one, had entered my eyes. Miraculously, despite this gruesome injury in my mouth, I was feeling no pain whatsoever. There was no physical feeling at all.

[Consilience]

23 hours ago, ZhenZhenZhen said:

Thank you for this post. Recently started meditating for 2 hours everyday as well and it has been a challenge for my addicted mind. But all obstacles will be overcome. 

Glad it resonated

Stay consistent, long term results = short term consistency. Trust that source pulling you to go within. 

 

19 hours ago, Moksha said:

@Consilience Amen and hallelujah. ? I agree 100%.

You call out one of the cardinal lines I've seen in this forum. Let's call it north-south. People tend to flock to one side or the other. Psychedelics vs. meditation, as if there is only one path that has spiritual value.

The other cardinal line is east-west, or ultimate vs. relative reality. Some insist that ultimate reality is all that matters, and the dream is a fantasy to be dismissed. Others champion the celebration of the dream, even knowing it for what it is.

Lines are inevitably divisive and egoic. We are all the same, seamless Consciousness, and yet we draw these lines like children, within the coloring book of the cosmos. Indivision intersects with division.

Maybe it is possible to realize the serenity of unity and the creativity of division, while appreciating the reality and the beauty of both.

Really appreciate this @Moksha! I love the description of cardinal lines, it does seem to be what's happened really unintentionally. Hoping we can start swinging back into a more holistic view as a community. 

"Maybe it is possible to realize the serenity of unity and the creativity of division, while appreciating the reality and the beauty of both."
All the feelz dude... ?❤️

 

19 hours ago, peanutspathtotruth said:

@Consilience Wow, what an amazing post, thank you for sharing your lovely journey and insights. Somehow this hit home for me since my focus seems very similar to yours.
Inte-fucking-gration!! It's key and it totally transforms consciousness/sadhana just as consciousness/sadhana transforms the integration.

Thank you ? And yes it is the key!! I'm happy to hear it's a similar focus. It really does radically transform consciousness, in ways that are extremely difficult to articulate and are only understood through the deep embodiment of serious sadhana. Wishing you well on your own path ?

[Consilience]

17 hours ago, impulse9 said:

Eckhart Tolle doesn't talk about God much, except in metaphor.  I consider him a realized master. Words aren't that important, this work is about the non-conceptual which can't be worded anyway. Even if you write 10000 books, you can't do Truth justice. You should know that.

Some of us just like to talk...  100% though

15 hours ago, impulse9 said:

Finally got a chance to watch through the video as well. 

Holy crap man. When you talk about the mundane vs mystical, "the mystical starts to become the mundane and the mundane starts to become mystical". I got a serious Zen jolt hearing that. Yes! Of course. This is exactly and precisely it.

I feel this is what Leo might be missing. The fact that this duality between the mystical and the mundane experience collapses as you spiritually mature, such that your highest mystical visions become irrelevant, and simply looking at a stream of flowing water becomes the experience of profound divinity. This is what the game is, fundamentally. A snake eating its own tail. A grand coincidentia oppositorum.

Really digging your whole vibe so you got a sub.

Really appreciate it and very happy the content resonates.  I definitely am going after vibes... Still working on it haha. 

Super glad you got Zen jolt because yes! Zen, while a bit squirrelly at times, is a powerful fucking lineage. A lot of wisdom to integrate from Zen that is impossible to do in one lifetime. 

And obviously no dig at Leo, but yes this is what I wish he emphasized more. On one level, I see he understands it based on how he responds in the small moments he concedes on the forum. But the presentation in his actual videos and in many other posts is that psychedelics are the ultimate end all be all. I think this is a momentous trap, a much worse trap than "meditating for 40 years and not being God realized." If you're following Actualized.org, using psychedelics, this risk is nearly non-existent. The real risk is getting lazy and not understanding the wisdom of manual practices such as meditation. There's the high chance he's leading a not insignificant amount of his followers into delusion, not setting them up for what they ultimately are after, which is Enlightenment. 

[Consilience]

17 hours ago, Loba said:

Makes me want to try it.  That's dedication, good job.

Thank you. I would trust the instinct to turn within. If you're feeling motivated to try 2 hours, ride that wave and see where it takes you.