is NoFap worth it?

[Michal__]

I mean ... there are other ways to reset your dopamine sensitivity lol. It obviously works but doing a 2 day fast every week or two seems way more favorable to me.

[Max8]

7 hours ago, soos_mite_ah said:

Do you use this as a coping mechanism to avoid things in your life or as a way to deal with depression/anxiety? 

nah 

just when caveman hormones kicks in 

[soos_mite_ah]

@Max8 Then I don't think you'd really benefit much from no fap. I'm speaking from my experience, feel free to try it out on your own. IMO doing no fap when you don't have an unhealthy relationship with porn/sex/masturbation would be like going to an alcoholic support group meeting when you don't have a drinking problem.  Embrace your natural sex drive. Just bust a nut and live your life lmao.

[SgtPepper]

worth what exactly?

more time and energy? better sex and orgasm? being stoic and virtuous? wanting to develop mastery in self-control?

This answer depends on what you what from yourself.

 

Edited September 29, 2021 by SgtPepper

[Max8]

25 minutes ago, soos_mite_ah said:

@Max8 I'm speaking from my experience, IMO doing no fap

never thought women watch porn or fap 

i thought only boys do this lol

[soos_mite_ah]

@Max8 Tf who lied to you lmaooo

Of course we do 

Maybe not as much porn (compared to men at least) because of how porn doesnt do a good job at depicting scenes that actually appeal to us but most of us definitely masturbate 

[ShardMare]

Just try it bro. In the end everybody has a different opinion. Try it for 30 days. Experience it yourself, then u will know. For me it gave me confidence, i can better socialize etc

[Emotionalmosquito]

Frequent masturbation lowers testosterone utilization 

https://www.researchgate.net/profile/Alonso_Fernandez-Guasti/publication/6536830_Relationship_between_Sexual_Satiety_and_Brain_Androgen_Receptors/links/54b6c2970cf2e68eb27f0321/Relationship-between-Sexual-Satiety-and-Brain-Androgen-Receptors.pdf

 Three weeks of abstinence increases testostorone levels 

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/11760788Masturbation is associated with lower psychological health and reproductive well-being 

https://www.tandfonline.com/doi/abs/10.1080/14681994.2019.167788

Sperm contains compounds that prolong lifespan, fight cancer & heart disease 

https://vitalrecord.tamhsc.edu/spermidine-rich-foods-may-prevent-liver-cancer-extend-lifespan/

Men who are sexually active in their 20s and 30s are more likely to develop prostate cancer

https://onlinelibrary.wiley.com/doi/full/10.1111/j.1464-410X.2008.08030.xMasturbation

decreases dopamine levels

https://sites.tufts.edu/emotiononthebrain/2014/11/18/postcoital-neurochemistry-the-blues-and-the-highs/

 Watching porn reduces gray matter in prefrontal cortex 

https://jamanetwork.com/journals/jamapsychiatry/fullarticle/1874574

Porn addiction has similar mechanism with substance addiction 

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC4600144/

Making sperm shortens lifespan of male worms 

https://www.nytimes.com/1992/12/03/us/in-worm-at-least-making-sperm-is-found-to-shorten-a-male-s-life.html

 Masturbating 3 days in a row decreases sperm count by 20%

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/2054949Increasing ejaculation frequency decreases sperm count significantly 

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pubmed/15497706Prevalence of erectile dysfunction doubled between 2004 and 2013 

http://cir.usc.edu/wp-content/uploads/2015/05/Genital-Image-Sexual-Anxiety-and-Erectile-Dysfunction-Among-Young-Male-Military-Personnel.pdf

Pornography consumption is associated with mental health issues 

https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC6327603

 

 So yes. It’s most certainly worth it. Quite possibly the most challenging journey you’ll ever embark on. But the most difficult things in life tend to yield the highest rewards. As a bonus you’ll learn to channel the energy and have full body orgasms without playing your meat flute. Yoga is the best way to do it.

Edited September 30, 2021 by Emotionalmosquito

[Emotionalmosquito]

#NoNutNovember starts in one month so get all your faps out now and put yourself to the test next month. ?

[HypnoticMagician]

Are you aware the actual problem is not watching porn but the masturbation itself. So what you need to truly aim is "semen-retention". Research this, instead

[Ora]

 

On 9/30/2021 at 1:13 AM, Emotionalmosquito said:

#NoNutNovember starts in one month so get all your faps out now and put yourself to the test next month. ?

lol i swear every couple years theres a new no fap month. i think there is already a #NoSimpSeptember. maybe the trend pointing towards celibacy/mastery of your self in the future 

[kamwalker]

How many of you guys masturbate without any external material? Or have at least tried it? It's one thing I find myself being a bit disappointed in. Unless I'm aggressively horny it's difficult to do, but it shows how dependent I've become on needing these insane levels of stimulation. I don't even mean porn because I rarely watch it, but even just pictures of instagram models. 

[LfcCharlie4]

Yeah, imo. 

Channel that energy into other areas of life & of course a relationship ideally. 

The difference when you quit porn is huge, but its far from easy and for most people who have been exposed to it for years, if not decades it takes a long time to rewire your brain. 

Perhaps the most ironic thing is a lot of men turn to porn out of loneliness & lack of connection, yet wasting sexual energy like that just makes it harder to find those things, hence the hamster wheel continues. Why do you think OnlyFans got so popular? These people (for whatever reason) think the models / stars care about them, maybe they do to an extent, but you're literally paying for attention, its not even comparable to a truly committed relationship.

Currently reading a book on Karezza & Retention which is really interesting, but just like NoFap, can be quite ideological of 'This is the way' etc. 

[hamedsf]

Yep, it worth it but remember not to the excessive point. it will make you desperate as fuck.

in a real sense, I've been much more strategic with girls when I was on my 15 days of no fap than 40 days.

[Emotionalmosquito]

On 10/3/2021 at 7:17 PM, kamwalker said:

How many of you guys masturbate without any external material? Or have at least tried it? It's one thing I find myself being a bit disappointed in. Unless I'm aggressively horny it's difficult to do, but it shows how dependent I've become on needing these insane levels of stimulation. I don't even mean porn because I rarely watch it, but even just pictures of instagram models. 

Sounds like you’re overdue for a dopamine detox 

[Insightful27]

I'm doing 100 days right now, I really haven't noticed any huge changes. Try it for yourself and see what happens.

[LloydRidges]

I did No-Fap for a few stretches over the years. I just ended up with erectile disfunction and shame over touching my penis. 
Accupuncture got rid of the ED.

The initial realization I came to after resolving the ED, was that I was doing No-Fap because I was ashamed of not getting laid and I felt powerless over my ability to do so. This initial realization was not deep enough though.

The discipline I used on No-Fap gave me a sense of pride and power, but the pride and power just allowed me to avoid dealing with a deep sense of shame that I had (the shame was way deeper than not getting laid).

That shame came from inferiority complex I developed in my childhood and that I perpetuated by not setting boundaries with people. 

Maybe this is relatable and useful for someone.

 

Edited October 11, 2021 by LloydRidges
Corrected word

[Osaid]

22 minutes ago, LloydRidges said:

I did No-Fap for a few stretches over the years. I just ended up with erectile disfunction

Very similar situation with me. I experienced what they call a "flatline" in the no-fap community, and then thereafter my libido was just very inconsistent all around. Sometimes absolutely no desire to masturbate, sometimes very little, and just overall lots of trouble getting my libido and erections back to what it once was. Very concerning stuff.

It is also very hard to tell whether I am back to normal or not, I don't have a good frame of reference. I think it is slowly getting better though.

[Roy]

On 9/28/2021 at 11:42 AM, Max8 said:

never thought women watch porn or fap 

i thought only boys do this lol

You would best serve yourself by dropping any preconceived notions of men and women do or don't do. Things may have been more simple 70 years ago, but now our culture is so open sexually and people have access to so many things through the internet that almost nothing should surprise you.

One of my ex girlfriends said she had entire month stretches when she was single where she would flick her bean to porn every single day. She was one of those very feminine/family oriented girls by the way. You wouldn't expect it, I certainly didn't. Made me reconsider my view of women completely and it was a great thing.

[Kshantivadin]

It's not a question of "worth". You're implying that there is something to renounce, give up for certain benefits. There is nothing to give up in masturbation and porn. It is only robbing you of your potential.

But yes, IME and a lot of people's experience as well, the benefits are immense.