Creation

[GreenWoods]

1 minute ago, WokeBloke said:

There is a connection between "bubbles". My bubble effects your bubble. Your bubble effects my bubble. Both bubbles are mine.

You imagine there being a connection. 

There is no causation and no effects. God imagines/creates a bubble from scratch. 

God can create a bubble which seems to be caused by another bubble. In the same way as food seems to cause you gaining weight. But it never was the food, it was God. If God wants God can also imagine the illusion that when you eat you lose weight.

In a car video game, is it the engine of the car that causes the car to drive? Cause and effect is an illusion.

[Tyler Durden]

4 minutes ago, GreenWoods said:

Actually, it's not the body-mind that is the avatar but the whole bubble. The bubble is an incarnation of God. All of God incarnates as that one bubble.

But my body always stays the same wherever I move and the bubble changes. I know there is no movement in reality but in relative sense it seems that there is.

[justfortoday]

2 minutes ago, Tyler Durden said:

But my body always stays the same wherever I move and the bubble changes. I know there is no movement in reality but in relative sense it seems that there is.

That's right. 

The world is coming to you as a dream, instead of you physically displacing your imaginary body mass across space and time, which are inventions of the ego.

[WokeBloke]

2 minutes ago, GreenWoods said:

You imagine there being a connection. 

There is no causation and no effects. God imagines/creates a bubble from scratch. 

God can create a bubble which seems to be caused by another bubble. In the same way as food seems to cause you gaining weight. But it never was the food, it was God. If God wants God can also imagine the illusion that when you eat you lose weight.

In a car video game, is it the engine of the car that causes the car to drive? Cause and effect is an illusion.

God is the cause of everything. Every effect is the result of God. God created cause and effect. The cause of cause and effect is God.

[GreenWoods]

7 minutes ago, Tyler Durden said:

Interesting perspective. You get used to your avatar that you want it to live forever. But no human can do that, only God.

Yes, that's all part of the illusion/dream.

You think you have a whole life to live, when actually your ego lives only for this one moment.

The ego 5 minutes ago was a different ego.

Imagine you clone your body. The cloned body is created from scratch. And even though it looks exactly like the original you, it's in a sense a completely new and different person, with its own unique consciousness and it's own ego.

[GreenWoods]

9 minutes ago, Tyler Durden said:

But my body always stays the same wherever I move and the bubble changes. 

What do you want to say with that?

Your body is created from scratch in every bubble, just like the rest of the bubble.

[Tyler Durden]

3 minutes ago, GreenWoods said:

Yes, that's all part of the illusion/dream.

You think you have a whole life to live, when actually your ego lives only for this one moment.

The ego 5 minutes ago was a different ego.

Imagine you clone your body. The cloned body is created from scratch. And even though it looks exactly like the original you, it's in a sense a completely new and different person, with its own unique consciousness and it's own ego.

How come I don't have any memories from my previous avatar's lives? I don't know if 'deja vu' can count as glimpses of that. It seems like a blank slate from the beginning of my current life.

[GreenWoods]

8 minutes ago, WokeBloke said:

God is the cause of everything. Every effect is the result of God. God created cause and effect. The cause of cause and effect is God.

You are saying that God is the original cause.  God causes the food to cause you to gain weight. Right?

But that's not how it works. God doesn't need an intermediate thing that causes something for God. God just directly creates it. Direct Creation/Imagination/Manifestation. No steps inbetween. No middle mans.

It's exactly like in a video game or dream. Do same investigations into how these work. 

[justfortoday]

Just now, GreenWoods said:

You are saying that God is the original cause.  God causes the food to cause you to gain weight. Right?

But that's not how it works. God doesn't need an intermediate thing that causes something for God. God just directly creates it. Direct Creation/Imagination/Manifestation. No steps inbetween. No middle mans.

It's exactly like in a video game or dream. Do same investigations into how these work. 

+1

Reality gets automatically rendered for consciousness like magic. Every moment is created for itself. 

[GreenWoods]

1 minute ago, Tyler Durden said:

How come I don't have any memories from my previous avatar's lives? I don't know if 'deja vu' can count as glimpses of that. It seems like a blank slate from the beginning of my current life.

From the absolute perspective there are no other avatars. Only this bubble.

From the relative perspective there are infinite avatars, and all are equally related to your current one. An alien avatar is not less related to your avatar than the one 5 minutes ago.

The only reason why you would have memories from an avatar from "your past life" and not from an alien in a different universe is so that there is the illusion that you are living a life and you are a soul that lived a past live and now is living this life.

God can give you past life memories. (Which would be fake memories like all memories). But then the illusion of death isn't as strong any more. Depending on what kind of dream God wants to create, God either gives you past live memories or not.

[WokeBloke]

14 minutes ago, GreenWoods said:

You are saying that God is the original cause.  God causes the food to cause you to gain weight. Right?

But that's not how it works. God doesn't need an intermediate thing that causes something for God. God just directly creates it. Direct Creation/Imagination/Manifestation. No steps inbetween. No middle mans.

It's exactly like in a video game or dream. Do same investigations into how these work. 

I am saying I am God and when I do something something happens. I am the cause of everything. Every effect is because of me.  There is one causer in this universe and it is I.

[GreenWoods]

3 minutes ago, WokeBloke said:

I am saying I am God and when I do something something happens. I am the cause of everything. Every effect is because of me.  There is one causer 

Exactly.

But are you sure you grasp all of its ramifications?

[WokeBloke]

Just now, GreenWoods said:

Exactly.

But are you sure you grasp all of its ramifications?

More than you who thinks he has an infinite past.

[GreenWoods]

3 minutes ago, WokeBloke said:

More than you who thinks he has an infinite past.

There is no past.

[WokeBloke]

1 minute ago, GreenWoods said:

There is no past.

There are past experiences which is why you have memory

[GreenWoods]

6 minutes ago, WokeBloke said:

There are past experiences which is why you have memory

Memory is imagination. 

Go imagine a unicorn running on Mars. 

Your memory is made up of the exact same "stuff", which is imagination.  

Both are imagination, your memory is not more real than that unicorn.

 

The reason you have memory is that God can experience the illusion of not being God.

[The0Self]

21 minutes ago, WokeBloke said:

There are past experiences which is why you have memory

In a dream at night when the dream just begins somewhere and there seems to be real continuity... How do you know this is not that? Not saying this is a dream but how do you know there isn't no real continuity? You can't know, just like in a dream. You can't know it because there is no real continuum. Memories just appear. How did you determine that infinity can't appear as a universe with a history with no problem, without that history having even taken place?

Edited September 26, 2021 by The0Self

[WokeBloke]

4 minutes ago, GreenWoods said:

Memory is imagination. 

Go imagine a unicorn running on Mars. 

Your memory is made up of the exact same "stuff", which is imagination.  

Both are imagination, your memory is not more real than that unicorn.

 

The reason you have memory is that God can experience the illusion of not being God.

Memories refer to actual experiences you had. You keep calling everything imagination. I think you are addicted to that word.

[WokeBloke]

1 minute ago, The0Self said:

In a dream at night when the dream just begins somewhere and there seems to have real continuity... How do you know this is not that? Not saying this is a dream but how do you know there isn't no real continuity? You can't know, just like in a dream. You can't know it because there is no real continuum. Memories just appear. How did you determine that infinity can't appear as a universe with a history with no problem, without that history having even taken place?

I consider it a possibility. I'm open to all ideas. However, I'm interested in the actual truth. And that can only be ascertained with experience. 

I'm already so deep that I'm not worried about having a shitty life anymore. I'm just interested in finding out whether I am all of the people in the world that had absolutely horrendous lives. If I'm there then I find it my duty to help them.

[GreenWoods]

3 minutes ago, WokeBloke said:

Memories refer to actual experiences you had. 

So you believe. That's how the illusion of living a life is created.

3 minutes ago, WokeBloke said:

You keep calling everything imagination. I think you are addicted to that word.

Imagination Imagination imagination imagination imagination

Yes I'm addicted to that word 

Because there is nothing but imagination.