Is there something better than redpill

[Chew211]

Make your own dating system.

I go for Lacanian Psychoanalysis as my theoretical base, and then just approaching as practical action. 

The issue with dating systems is that they're products meant to be sold. Even the people that get good from them only do so because they've discovered their own way of going about things. 

 

[Haloman]

No there isn’t. Or maybe there is only one from what I’ve found. It’s to make your own positive perspectives to red pill truths so you can accept and love female nature and don’t get bitter about it. Easier said than done. Looks like it goes hand in hand with dissolving your ego and spirituality.

[Waves]

James Marshall or anyone of The Natural Lifestyles. These guys are masters of natural seduction and in general of living the good material life. Their approach is the most holistic you'll find out there. James has a great mind, is non-ideological, and has massive life experience, including with meditation (he has trained with monks). 

For example, this speech gives you the big picture of how learning dating and attraction integrates with your hero's journey.

 

[flowboy]

16 hours ago, itachi uchiha said:

i find models,no more mr nice guy,robert greene and other redpill books to be  life saving

Hang on, sir. "Models" by Mark Manson is NOT redpill. Neither is NMMNG.

Also, if you already found those books, what more do you need?

Did you read them fully, and understand everything?

Why would you be asking for more material and "systems"?

Just go do what the book says!!!

Edited September 22, 2021 by flowboy

[Nahm]

The something which is better than red pill is anything other than red pill. Don’t compare to move, let red pill go from mind & mouth. Then something else can, and indeed will, be. 

[itachi uchiha]

 

On 21/9/2021 at 3:02 PM, Leo Gura said:

David DeAngelo has good advice which avoid many of the toxic Red Pill and pickup tropes.

but i see some forum memebers say he is outdated

Edited September 22, 2021 by itachi uchiha

[itachi uchiha]

@Bando @Waves thanks

[itachi uchiha]

On 21/9/2021 at 4:04 PM, Chew211 said:

I go for Lacanian Psychoanalysis as my theoretical base, and then just approaching as practical action.

i never heard this before.not a single pickup artist mentioned this before. but from personal experience scientific methods are inferiour to methods derived from personal experience. did u have success with lacan. is your success very good?

[itachi uchiha]

@flowboy

15 hours ago, flowboy said:

Hang on, sir. "Models" by Mark Manson is NOT redpill. Neither is NMMNG.

Also, if you already found those books, what more do you need?

i see people demonizing  redpill so i thought there is something better.

i am very much satisfied with books like models, nmmng etc. hence i will stick with them.thankyou

[itachi uchiha]

@Haloman i guess i will modify redpill and make it less toxic.

[something_else]

Why do you feel like you need a system to follow? 

[itachi uchiha]

@something_else i live in a blue country. few girls reach orange and beyond. so all guys want those orange girls.so they have high demand and hence there is a lot of competition. i need to beat the competition to land on a quality girl.so i am  looking for best pickup wisdoms to beat the competition

[something_else]

Meh, I guess. I don't really know your situation, just don't get bogged down in theory vs action. Going out and socialising with those girls as much as possible is worth a thousand theories and systems.

[flowboy]

44 minutes ago, itachi uchiha said:

@something_else i live in a blue country. few girls reach orange and beyond. so all guys want those orange girls.so they have high demand and hence there is a lot of competition. i need to beat the competition to land on a quality girl.so i am  looking for best pickup wisdoms to beat the competition

How much dating experience do you have?

[flowboy]

@itachi uchiha  Nevermind, found a "system" that sounds like what you need

 

[hamedsf]

follow the redpill and then throw away the bad parts, then you will remain with the golden pill. ?

[Gesundheit2]

The thing is that if you disregard this idea of applying a system, you'll simply end up with the default system, which is women red pill, which is super manipulative, exploitative, and abusive, let alone the fact that it's completely unconscious in most cases.

See. That's why they call dating a game. If you give up your game, you won't escape it; rather, you will have to be playing the woman's game, by the woman's rules, and you will not like it, guaranteed. You will either end up in a relationship that's skewed to the woman's side, or you will end up rejected and lonely and an incel. Women don't really care about your agenda as a man. In fact, they are in most cases cutthroat. A woman will not have sex with you out of sympathy. She is not concerned about your lack of sex. In other words, she's selfish and does not care about your agenda. And she isn't to blame, because survival is cutthroat. Everyone is selfish and nobody cares about anybody expect themselves, at the end of the day.

That being said, it would be wise to step up and do something conscious instead of that BS. It's especially wise because it's conscious leadership, instead of the unconscious rulership of women.

Now, is the red pill the best system out there? I don't know. And I don't care. For me, it's rather a tool; a means to an end, not a religion or a cult to follow blindly. There are principles that I find super accurate, and others that I find not so much. The map is not the territory. Red pill is not about women. It's about achieving a man's agendas, regardless of women's agenda. If you want something more woman-friendly, then there's the purple pill. But either way, conscious leadership is better than the monopoly of pussy.

[itachi uchiha]

On 22/9/2021 at 9:30 AM, flowboy said:

How much dating experience do you have?

my theorotical knowledge in redpill is rock solid.i have a black belt in it. but i have 0 practical experience.i am basically a keyboard warrior

[itachi uchiha]

@Gesundheit2

i find redpill to be a god send angels gift to me. it helped me see through all the bullshit i am brainwashed by society and media.regardless of people deamonizing it i find it to be extremely valuable and practical.if i found it early in my teens it would remove enormous suffering.if i just implement it and do it for 2 years i am 100% sure it would get me out of my incelship and get me laid and i will get laid regularly.

 the average woman in my society is toxic.if i do nothing i will end up as their slave.i would  be in their terms.i agree the best relationship a guy can get is to be in the comany of a fellow man. for me guys company>girls company.repill point out the dark truths that game is over even before it even began and i will be take the truth even if it hurts rather than living in a fairy tale.
 i wish i find a yellow woman but  iwill never find a green woman. best i could get is orange and it is fucking toxic. redpill is perfect for dealing with that toxicity. i will adapt my game according to woman
 
 

[something_else]

50 minutes ago, itachi uchiha said:

my theorotical knowledge in redpill is rock solid.i have a black belt in it. but i have 0 practical experience.i am basically a keyboard warrior

Oh man, this is a recipe for disaster. Especially given the post that follows it. You're on the knives edge of toxicity, tread carefully

I'd stop consuming redpill shit and just focus on socialising with girls. Maybe look at some of the healthier pickup/socialisation theory if you need it

This is a game of action, not theory. The theory is supplemental and secondary