5-MeO-MALT Mega-Thread

[OBEler]

43 minutes ago, shree said:

Probably 5-MeO-DMT, since it acts within a few seconds when vaporized, and the savagery it provides during the come-up is unparalleled.

 

I sadly never got the chance to experience it by plugging.

You mean 5 Meo DMT is harder to the body because the come up can be wild?

[shree]

6 hours ago, OBEler said:

You mean 5 Meo DMT is harder to the body because the come up can be wild?

With MALT, you can gradually increase the dose to reach a breakthrough. In contrast, 5-MeO-DMT either causes a breakthrough or not. Both can be super-intense at the right dose

 

[Davino]

16 hours ago, RendHeaven said:

MALT always makes me feel like the body is made out of an uncomfortable prickly molasses

That's not a bug, that's a feature. You gotta work through that. It's an essential part of the journey with Malt. It's purging you, it's healing you, embrace it and work with it. After taking a shower you can enter heaven.

[OBEler]

@Davino would you say Malt is dangerous for someone with a weak heart but overall healthy body or manageable?

For me I find 5 Meo DMT sometimes very harsh on the body. But never with 5 meo malt.

[Davino]

53 minutes ago, OBEler said:

would you say Malt is dangerous for someone with a weak heart but overall healthy body or manageable?

I wouldn't dare to give you such medical advise. I would lean always on caution and a conservative mind regarding drug experimentation. It's better to be safe than sorry.

[halfknots]

Much of the 5-MeO-MALT vs 5-MeO-DMT conversation seems to make the mistake of conflating certain qualities of the route of administration with qualities of the molecule.

5-MeO-MALT and 5-MeO-DMT have the same ROA possibilities, with the variable being whether you have freebase or a salt form.

Additionally, it isn't as of one is for breakthroughs and one for more subtle work. That is entirely dependent on dose and ROA. 

[What Am I]

18 minutes ago, halfknots said:

Much of the 5-MeO-MALT vs 5-MeO-DMT conversation seems to make the mistake of conflating certain qualities of the route of administration with qualities of the molecule.

5-MeO-MALT and 5-MeO-DMT have the same ROA possibilities, with the variable being whether you have freebase or a salt form.

Additionally, it isn't as of one is for breakthroughs and one for more subtle work. That is entirely dependent on dose and ROA. 

Do you have experience with the 5-MeO-MALT breakthrough? Are you able to compare it to 5-MeO-DMT's?

[StripedGiraffe]

5-MeO-MALT Trip Reports (trips #3 & #4)

Trip 3:

A couple days ago, I bought a vape with a sub-ohm tank, mixed up some HCL malt e-juice and vaped it. I choked down 11 hits, but it was too disgusting to continue. I probably consumed around 10 - 20mg. Effects were threshold, something like a 1g mushroom trip.

Trip 4:

Dose: ≈ 60mg (10 levelled red microscoops)

Route of Administration: Ass

After the initial ass burning subsided, I sat on my meditation cushion in my back yard.  I felt a nice spaciousness as the breeze hit me. I took a few hits from the malt vape during the peak. Then the visuals set in. At first, the grass seemed more vibrant and almost cartoonish. Then my whole yard appeared like a living Alex Grey painting. There were eyeballs scattered throughout it. I laid back and rested my gaze on the evening sky. I saw complex geometric 3D rainbow fractals. The phrase “fractals within fractals” arose to describe what I saw (redundant, I know). Time was passing slowly. A couple minutes felt like 20, and I was loving it. Then I did some intuitive stretching/yoga. When I stood up, I felt like a baby deer walking for the first time, which had me laughing. 
 

I had the insight, “there is no way that things are” (apart from my way of looking at them.) That is to say that subject and object are intertwined and inseparable. All experiences are fabrications of the mind. This insight has been sort of a theme for me over the last month.

That said, despite the outstanding visuals, the experience was pretty chill and gentile feeling. I don’t feel like I’ve had a breakthrough yet. Egoic thinking/feeling was still intact and I didn’t experience any sort of heart opening. But still, the trip was deep, comparable only to some intense moments on ayahuasca or mushrooms. And the visuals were the craziest I’ve ever seen. 

Looking forward to going deeper.  

 

 

 

Edited October 2 by StripedGiraffe

[LoseYourvelf]

6 hours ago, StripedGiraffe said:

5-MeO-MALT Trip Reports (trips #3 & #4)

Trip 3:

A couple days ago, I bought a vape with a sub-ohm tank, mixed up some HCL malt e-juice and vaped it. I choked down 11 hits, but it was too disgusting to continue. I probably consumed around 10 - 20mg. Effects were threshold, something like a 1g mushroom trip.

Trip 4:

Dose: ≈ 60mg (10 levelled red microscoops)

Route of Administration: Ass

After the initial ass burning subsided, I sat on my meditation cushion in my back yard.  I felt a nice spaciousness as the breeze hit me. I took a few hits from the malt vape during the peak. Then the visuals set in. At first, the grass seemed more vibrant and almost cartoonish. Then my whole yard appeared like a living Alex Grey painting. There were eyeballs scattered throughout it. I laid back and rested my gaze on the evening sky. I saw complex geometric 3D rainbow fractals. The phrase “fractals within fractals” arose to describe what I saw (redundant, I know). Time was passing slowly. A couple minutes felt like 20, and I was loving it. Then I did some intuitive stretching/yoga. When I stood up, I felt like a baby deer walking for the first time, which had me laughing. 
 

I had the insight, “there is no way that things are” (apart from my way of looking at them.) That is to say that subject and object are intertwined and inseparable. All experiences are fabrications of the mind. This insight has been sort of a theme for me over the last month.

That said, despite the outstanding visuals, the experience was pretty chill and gentile feeling. I don’t feel like I’ve had a breakthrough yet. Egoic thinking/feeling was still intact and I didn’t experience any sort of heart opening. But still, I think this might have been the deepest trip of my life, comparable only to some intense moments on ayahuasca or mushrooms. 

Looking forward to going deeper.  

 

 

 

Incredible

[RendHeaven]

On 10/2/2024 at 1:53 PM, StripedGiraffe said:

Dose: ≈ 60mg (10 levelled red microscoops)

Route of Administration: Ass

After the initial ass burning subsided, I sat on my meditation cushion in my back yard.  I felt a nice spaciousness as the breeze hit me. I took a few hits from the malt vape during the peak. Then the visuals set in. At first, the grass seemed more vibrant and almost cartoonish. Then my whole yard appeared like a living Alex Grey painting. There were eyeballs scattered throughout it. I laid back and rested my gaze on the evening sky. I saw complex geometric 3D rainbow fractals. The phrase “fractals within fractals” arose to describe what I saw (redundant, I know). Time was passing slowly. A couple minutes felt like 20, and I was loving it. Then I did some intuitive stretching/yoga. When I stood up, I felt like a baby deer walking for the first time, which had me laughing. 
 

I had the insight, “there is no way that things are” (apart from my way of looking at them.) That is to say that subject and object are intertwined and inseparable. All experiences are fabrications of the mind. This insight has been sort of a theme for me over the last month.

That said, despite the outstanding visuals, the experience was pretty chill and gentile feeling. I don’t feel like I’ve had a breakthrough yet.

Holy crap are you kidding me? 10 level red scoops up my ass would absolutely flatten and murder me lol, just 6 scoops got me to the edge of the heat death of the universe. "pretty chill" for that dose is wild

You must be very naturally high-tolerance for psychs (this is not uncommon, some of my buddies are built like this)

[StripedGiraffe]

@RendHeaven yeah I’m definitely surprised. I never expected to take this high of a dose after reading other trip reports. I guess I’m just a bit less sensitive to malt compared to others. When it comes to other substances, my tolerance is low - normal. I’m wondering if it’s because I haven’t tried 5-meo-dmt yet. I haven’t heard from any malt users that haven’t tried it previously. 

[What Am I]

2 hours ago, StripedGiraffe said:

@RendHeaven yeah I’m definitely surprised. I never expected to take this high of a dose after reading other trip reports. I guess I’m just a bit less sensitive to malt compared to others. When it comes to other substances, my tolerance is low - normal. I’m wondering if it’s because I haven’t tried 5-meo-dmt yet. I haven’t heard from any malt users that haven’t tried it previously. 

I'm guessing it has to be related to individual variability in rectal absorption. I've read a bunch of reports where some people just need much larger amounts when plugging. I'd be super careful about assuming you need more than average when using any other ROA, or you could accidentally cause a horrific trip.

Edited October 3 by What Am I

[StripedGiraffe]

@What Am I I appreciate the warning but I’ve tried nasal absorption and vaping and still seem to need quite a bit 

[What Am I]

Just now, StripedGiraffe said:

@What Am I I appreciate the warning but I’ve tried nasal absorption and vaping and still seem to need quite a bit 

Ah gotcha, very interesting.

[StripedGiraffe]

5-meo-malt trip #5:

Dose ≈ 80mg (13 red microscoops) up the butt + two or three malt vape hits.

I sat in the woods on my meditation cushion. The come up was gentile. I admired the luminous trees in the sunlight. I ripped the vape hard. The grass melted into a sea of fractals.

With all of my malt trips, I felt extra physically sensitive, like I could feel more aliveness in my teeth and through the rest of my body. And I felt like the energy the malt wants to show me is very subtle. But I felt like my nervous system is so out of tune from incessant ego activity that I was not fully able to immerse myself in that subtle relaxed background energy. I lied there just consciously trying to relax. I was able to relax a little but after a while I felt like I wasn’t getting anywhere and decided to let go of control, to surrender fully and not do anything. That helped me relax a bit more. I realised that I’ve never really be able to relax.

I intuitively started tapping my heart center and saying “I am what I am searching for”. That felt healing and relaxing. 
 

Overall the trip was chill and a bit less intense that my last trip even though the dose was higher. All of my malt trips have pretty much just felt like I’m on mushrooms and sometimes a splash of DMT/ayahuasca visuals. The body load and most of the visuals and the nature of insights were practically identical to my experiences with psilocybin. I’m giving up on this substance for now as I don’t think I’m going to break through on it. I’m thinking I need to break through on 5-meo-dmt first into order to attune to that energy and potentiate this substance. Then I’ll try malt again with a fresh start (starting at a much lower dose). Now to find some 5-meo-dmt… wish me luck! And thanks for reading. 

[integration journey]

2 hours ago, StripedGiraffe said:

5-meo-malt trip #5:

Dose ≈ 80mg (13 red microscoops) up the butt + two or three malt vape hits.

I sat in the woods on my meditation cushion. The come up was gentile. I admired the luminous trees in the sunlight. I ripped the vape hard. The grass melted into a sea of fractals.

With all of my malt trips, I felt extra physically sensitive, like I could feel more aliveness in my teeth and through the rest of my body. And I felt like the energy the malt wants to show me is very subtle. But I felt like my nervous system is so out of tune from incessant ego activity that I was not fully able to immerse myself in that subtle relaxed background energy. I lied there just consciously trying to relax. I was able to relax a little but after a while I felt like I wasn’t getting anywhere and decided to let go of control, to surrender fully and not do anything. That helped me relax a bit more. I realised that I’ve never really be able to relax.

I intuitively started tapping my heart center and saying “I am what I am searching for”. That felt healing and relaxing. 
 

Overall the trip was chill and a bit less intense that my last trip even though the dose was higher. All of my malt trips have pretty much just felt like I’m on mushrooms and sometimes a splash of DMT/ayahuasca visuals. The body load and most of the visuals and the nature of insights were practically identical to my experiences with psilocybin. I’m giving up on this substance for now as I don’t think I’m going to break through on it. I’m thinking I need to break through on 5-meo-dmt first into order to attune to that energy and potentiate this substance. Then I’ll try malt again with a fresh start (starting at a much lower dose). Now to find some 5-meo-dmt… wish me luck! And thanks for reading. 

Good luck to you❤️

[OBEler]

@StripedGiraffe a wise idea.

However I witnessed personally that it is possible to breakthrough easy with malt first time without 5 Meo DMT breakthroughs before.

[RendHeaven]

has anyone tried drinking MALT HCL?

oral administration for 5meodmt is ignored completely because of some liver mechanism that neutralizes it (waste of substance).

oral administration for DPT is actually possible though most people avoid it because it is inefficient.

where does MALT land?

I'm thinking of drinking MALT for science, let me know if that's a bad idea

[StripedGiraffe]

5 hours ago, OBEler said:

@StripedGiraffe a wise idea.

However I witnessed personally that it is possible to breakthrough easy with malt first time without 5 Meo DMT breakthroughs before.

Good to know. At the very least, I feel like malt was a good primer for me. It helped highlight some very basic issues I need to work on 

 

and @integration journey thank you 🙏 

[What Am I]

5 hours ago, RendHeaven said:

has anyone tried drinking MALT HCL?

oral administration for 5meodmt is ignored completely because of some liver mechanism that neutralizes it (waste of substance).

oral administration for DPT is actually possible though most people avoid it because it is inefficient.

where does MALT land?

I'm thinking of drinking MALT for science, let me know if that's a bad idea

I've seen a few reports on Reddit where malt was orally active, so it sounds like it'd work.