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I have a question regarding 5 meo dmt vs malt HCl. When taking 5 meo dmt HCL can you take it the same way as Malt? Example 10mg via same ROA as Malt? What about dosages are the same starting doses recommend?

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1 minute ago, LoneWonderer said:

I have a question regarding 5 meo dmt vs malt HCl. When taking 5 meo dmt HCL can you take it the same way as Malt? Example 10mg via same ROA as Malt? What about dosages are the same starting doses recommend?

They are roughly the same.


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3 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

They are roughly the same.

Thank you! 😊🙏

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12 hours ago, LoneWonderer said:

I have a question regarding 5 meo dmt vs malt HCl. When taking 5 meo dmt HCL can you take it the same way as Malt? Example 10mg via same ROA as Malt? What about dosages are the same starting doses recommend?

 

Good Dosage start for 5 Meo DMT rectal: 6 mg

For 5-Meo-Malt rectal: 10 mg

 

Edited by OBEler

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Posted (edited)

First trip report:

1 black microspoon (should be 6 mg but more like 4 mg MALT as I am pretty sensitive to psychedelics)-  snorted

Took about 10 minutes to get the full effects and was pretty intense, much more than I expected but somewhat similar to a similar dose of vaped 5MEO-DMT dose. My ego started to loose control and was fighting back. I cannot say it was pleasant as It also came with a pretty good bodyload, I almost threw up.

I can see now what people are meaning when saying it makes you work through your baggage and traumas, they get put clearly in front of you and you can see the mechanisms, very  helpful in this regard. (like that I have lots of repressed anger and am trying to control everything, things I had a hunch about but did not see clearly)

It has a sexual feeling to it (sexual, not erotic). My senses were heightened by a good deal.

I cannot really say it was gentle like I heard other people describing it but might also have been the ROA as it came with a good bodyload. Is pugging superior in this regard, or is the bodyload the same?

Whole experience was about an hour, feeling chill now but still not able to even think about food.

Will go further

Ma

BTW, I am a male, around 100 kg BW

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3 hours ago, MaDoubt said:

bodyload

yes MALT always has annoying body load for me (I prefer 5meodmt)

3 hours ago, MaDoubt said:

It has a sexual feeling to it

happens to me every time on lower doses. I prefer high dose


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5-MeO-DMT has worse bodyload for me than MALT. But bodyload varies a lot from person to person. MALT has a lovely feel on me.

Edited by Leo Gura

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2 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

5-MeO-DMT has worse bodyload for me than MALT.

On 9/30/2024 at 8:35 PM, OBEler said:

 

Absolutely.

However, the tremors I experienced on MALT were unmatched.


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@shree I love when I tremor. I just don't like when my heart starts beating too much. But that only happened on 5 meo DMT.

 

 

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I was going to say that I, too, get either tremors (shakes) in the body or a high heart rate. Between the two, I much prefer the tremors. 

I usually register those when the trip is unpleasant, i.e. when I had too much or too little. 

The last time when the dose was just right I didn't get either shakes or tremors but I was doing the Martin Ball's body yoga movements on 5-meo-dmt.

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Never got any tremors on any 5-MeO class of chemical.


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Which one am i looking for for a replacement for DMT that's less topsy turvy and stronger trip


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1 minute ago, LoseYourvelf said:

Which one am i looking for for a replacement for DMT that's less topsy turvy and stronger trip

Definitely give both a try if possible. They're very different from DMT, but overall pretty similar to each other.

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Just now, What Am I said:

Definitely give both a try if possible. They're very different from DMT.

in a worse or better way?


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Just now, LoseYourvelf said:

in a worse or better way?

Much better if your goal is to expand awareness and pursue the typical spiritual path, with attributes like concentration and mindfulness.

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Just now, What Am I said:

Much better if your goal is to expand awareness and pursue the typical spiritual path, with attributes like concentration and mindfulness.

Cheers🍻


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4 minutes ago, LoseYourvelf said:

Cheers🍻

Right on. Just be careful though, because along with the enhanced potential for real spiritual transformation, these two psychedelics can be more prone to causing dangerous situations. Whether through unpredictable actions on your part, strong physiological effects, or even terror from oncoming ego death that makes you call the authorities for help.

Start low with your dose and move up only as you feel comfortable.

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Thanks to Leo big time and the forum users


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Just now, What Am I said:

Right on. Just be careful though, because along with the enhanced potential for real spiritual transformation, these two psychedelics can be more prone to causing dangerous situations. Whether through unpredictable actions on your part, strong physiological effects, or even terror from oncoming ego death that makes you call the authorities for help.

Start low with your dose and move up only as you feel comfortable.

I wouldn't worry about the "unpredictable actions" part, be concerned maybe but i appreciate it, not much u can do except usual approach i think, thanks though


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I have the suspicion that my Malt turned into a somewhat darker color over the summer, it was not stored in a particularly hot spot but my room temperature was probably up to 30 celsius. Is there reason for concern? I havent done it for quite a few months. Can this stuff decay and get potentially more harmful to the body? I guess I will start to test doses from the lowest possible amount up and see the reaction.

 

 

 

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