Jesus Christ

[Dodo]

Holy cow, this is pathetic. I am pathetic. I've just had an insight that im completely and utterly pathetic. 

But im at peace with that!!!

Peace out

[Arman]

if you say so 

[Dodo]

16 minutes ago, Arman said:

if you say so 

Yeah,  I need to grow a little spine

[Shin]

If you can laugh about it, you're on the right track.

 

[Prabhaker]

3 hours ago, Dodoster said:

I've just had an insight that im completely and utterly pathetic

All of us are pathetic, that's why we are unenlightened. 

 

3 hours ago, Dodoster said:

But im at peace with that!!!

Pathetic can't be at peace !

[jse]

4 hours ago, Dodoster said:

Holy cow, this is pathetic. I am pathetic. I've just had an insight that im completely and utterly pathetic.

pa·thos

noun

- a quality that evokes pity or sadness.

[Dodo]

1 hour ago, Prabhaker said:

All of us are pathetic, that's why we are unenlightened. 

 

Pathetic can't be at peace !

Sure?

[cetus]

@Dodoster Some of the greatest insights can be had when we except how pathetic we really are. That leaves us nowhere to go but out.

[Dodo]

13 minutes ago, cetus56 said:

@Dodoster Some of the greatest insights can be had when we except how pathetic we really are. That leaves us nowhere to go but out.

Do you mean going out clubbing / to the park and meeting people? I thought the journey was within, but i do need to break my shell 

[Prabhaker]

17 minutes ago, Dodoster said:

Sure?

If a pathetic is at peace, that peace is a dead peace, it has no life in it. That silence is the silence of a cemetery, of the graveyard. No bliss in it.

[Dodo]

5 minutes ago, Prabhaker said:

If a pathetic is at peace, that peace is a dead peace, it has no life in it. That silence is the silence of a cemetery, of the graveyard. No bliss in it.

Cemeteries and graveyards are pretty peaceful places, i really do not understand what you want to say. Your mind attaches some labels to things and all of a sudden there is bad peace and good peace.

You dont like cemeteries peace because of your own fears and issues, do not force that on others 

Peace doesn't have any other qualities but peace itself and can be cultivated. I would know, my first name actually has Peace in it

[cetus]

@Dodoster No not "out" as clubbing or to the park. I mean out of the pathetic little "self". But it is nice to get that small self out for a breath of fresh air every once in a while. Which I am planning on doing right now. It's freezing outside but I'm gearing up to take the ATV and the dog for a long run in the woods. Maybe I'll  just find a quiet place to sit for a while and melt into nature. I guess I should wear something bright because it is hunting season now where I'm located.

[cetus]

@Dodoster On second thought, I just heard a gun shot nearby.  I'm feeling a little pathetic myself right now fearing for my life. 

[Prabhaker]

21 minutes ago, Dodoster said:

i really do not understand what you want to say.

First, peace is possible if everybody is almost dead. 

Another type of peace – a totally different dimension of peace – exists when you are vital, alive, but centered in your being. Then there will be more life, more silence, but the silence will belong to life, not to death. It will not be the silence of the graveyard. 

As you are you cannot get peace. And if somebody gives you peace, that will be death to you. As you are, if you become peaceful, what will that mean? That will mean the struggle has ceased before you have attained anything. As you are, if somebody makes you silent, what will that mean? You won’t have achieved any self, and you will be consoled by your situation.

This is the meaning of Jesus when he says: ... I HAVE BROUGHT FIRE, SWORD, WAR – ALTHOUGH MEN POSSIBLY THINK THAT I HAVE COME TO THROW PEACE UPON THE WORLD....

A deep inner conflict is needed. You should not be lethargic, you should not relax unless the true relaxation happens.

[Dodo]

14 minutes ago, Prabhaker said:

First, peace is possible if everybody is almost dead. 

Another type of peace – a totally different dimension of peace – exists when you are vital, alive, but centered in your being. Then there will be more life, more silence, but the silence will belong to life, not to death. It will not be the silence of the graveyard. 

As you are you cannot get peace. And if somebody gives you peace, that will be death to you. As you are, if you become peaceful, what will that mean? That will mean the struggle has ceased before you have attained anything. As you are, if somebody makes you silent, what will that mean? You won’t have achieved any self, and you will be consoled by your situation.

This is the meaning of Jesus when he says: ... I HAVE BROUGHT FIRE, SWORD, WAR – ALTHOUGH MEN POSSIBLY THINK THAT I HAVE COME TO THROW PEACE UPON THE WORLD....

A deep inner conflict is needed. You should not be lethargic, you should not relax unless the true relaxation happens.

If relaxation happens it is true relaxation. I am under the impression that my first hand experience is the only verifiable truth.

The other stuff you talk about is about desire? What self do I need to attain? I thought i have to untangle my current self, not attain a new one.

[Dodo]

31 minutes ago, Prabhaker said:

First, peace is possible if everybody is almost dead. 

Another type of peace – a totally different dimension of peace – exists when you are vital, alive, but centered in your being. Then there will be more life, more silence, but the silence will belong to life, not to death. It will not be the silence of the graveyard. 

As you are you cannot get peace. And if somebody gives you peace, that will be death to you. As you are, if you become peaceful, what will that mean? That will mean the struggle has ceased before you have attained anything. As you are, if somebody makes you silent, what will that mean? You won’t have achieved any self, and you will be consoled by your situation.

This is the meaning of Jesus when he says: ... I HAVE BROUGHT FIRE, SWORD, WAR – ALTHOUGH MEN POSSIBLY THINK THAT I HAVE COME TO THROW PEACE UPON THE WORLD....

A deep inner conflict is needed. You should not be lethargic, you should not relax unless the true relaxation happens.

Death is also an illusion from where I stand. Because I know I am life itself. I am experience. Present moment experience, and I couldn't stop it if I wanted to! I can only change the experience and try to move towards "heaven" rather than "hell". 

But hell is good too, because you grow in hell the most. Fire pushes you.

Death is 0, it doesn't exist.

Life/Experience is 1, it always exists, is the only thing that exists and everyone has that first hand knowledge of it by default. I am it and you are it. Its simple and its peace.

I have only an eternity. So yeah, I can relax now for sure Im not so attached to my present form, but i love it anyway with all its imperfections .

Edited December 9, 2016 by Dodoster

[hundreth]

[Deep]

@Prabhaker Don't use that kind of language against yourself brother. Enlightenment is not serious.