The bad side of Vaush

[Opo]

Not to spoil this but he's got some problems. 

 

[Raptorsin7]

Called this a while back and got pushback. 

This guy is a degenerate

[AtheisticNonduality]

1 hour ago, Raptorsin7 said:

Called this a while back and got pushback. 

This guy is a degenerate

Define "degenerate."

[Raptorsin7]

@AtheisticNonduality He's a sex predator, and has no sense of what a good life means and what would be good for society. He has poor integrity and intellectual honesty. He's not a good person.

 

He's a degenerate for being a sex predator. But hes just unwise low intelligence based on his assessment of the world.

 

[Epikur]

Vaush is my favourite grifter. Postmodern edgy rhetoric for optics except when it comes to grifting then he becomes friends with Tim Pool and Charlie Kirk. Though Jimmy Dore is fascist.

Great moral authority on sexual harrassment based on his experience as a sexual predator

Btw. Hasan is also good at grifting.

 

Edited September 5, 2021 by Epikur

[Dryas]

1 hour expose vid?? Holyy 
 

man, this is a video you only post if you see Vaush fanboys who’ll suck his cock at any given moment. 
 

that isn’t this place, so I don’t get why you post it here. It just turns into a stupid hate thread and debate. 

[Leo Gura]

Calling Vaush evil is the same as him calling right-wingers Nazis.

Aside from Vaush calling every right-winger a Nazi, fascist, and white supremacist, his political takes are surprising intelligent for a 20-something-year-old Youtuber gamer bro.

I am talking about his political positions. Not his personal life.

[Joel3102]

50 minutes ago, Epikur said:

 he becomes friends with Tim Pool and Charlie Kirk. 
Great moral authority on sexual harrassment based on his experience as a sexual predator

Btw. Hasan is also good grifting.

 

How’s he friends with them just because debated them? 

Lol Hasan probably is. He just wants to be a rich and famous e-celeb and trendy socialist happened to be his lane to get there 

[Opo]

1 hour ago, Dryas said:

man, this is a video you only post if you see Vaush fanboys who’ll suck his cock at any given moment. 

 

that isn’t this place, so I don’t get why you post it here. It just turns into a stupid hate thread and debate. 

There are people here who blindly follow him. That's why I posted it. 

If it doesn't turn out to be productive mods should lock it. 

1 hour ago, Epikur said:

Vaush is my favourite grifter. Postmodern edgy rhetoric for optics except when it comes to grifting then he becomes friends with Tim Pool and Charlie Kirk. Though Jimmy Dore is fascist.

Great moral authority on sexual harrassment based on his experience as a sexual predator

Btw. Hasan is also good grifting.

 

They don't seem like grifters to me more like slaves to their biases. I know people that are even worse at this in real life. 

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

Calling Vaush evil is the same as him calling right-wingers Nazis.

I think it's stupid but not the same. 

He said that anyone who disagrees with him should be killed. Most people in our society would say that that's evil.

Even conservatives are developed enough to allow a difference in opinion. 

1 hour ago, Leo Gura said:

Aside from Vaush calling every right-winger a Nazi, fascist, and white supremacist, his political takes are surprising intelligent for a 20-something-year-old Youtuber gamer bro.

I would agree with this before I watched the video. 

He just holds too many authoritarian tendencies to be anywhere near intelligent. 

Some of the clips are old so he probably grew out of some of this stuff but not all. 

Edited September 5, 2021 by Opo

[Leo Gura]

5 minutes ago, Opo said:

He said that anyone who disagrees with him should be killed.

You think he actually believes that? Lol

Talk about bad faith.

[Opo]

3 minutes ago, Leo Gura said:

You think he actually believes that? Lol

Talk about bad faith.

I'll find the timestamp later. 

[SaWaSaurus]

1 hour ago, Opo said:

I'll find the timestamp later. 

Did it ever occur to you that when Vaush said this he might have been like, joking? The fact that you can't tell it's a joke shows your extraordinary bias against this person.

[Leo Gura]

2 hours ago, Opo said:

I'll find the timestamp later. 

Don't bother

[Girzo]

He is joking in that way all the time. That's a matter of his character type, not integrity. I personally almost never joke in that way, but my best friend does, I am not a biggest fan of it, but that doesn't stop me from being really close to that person. (By "in that way" I mean role-playing some postion as yours so it's believable you hold it, if I role-play something I always exaggerate it a lot and add at the end "obviously I was joking" for clarity as I don't like confusing people.)

I think it's an analogous situation with Vaush. So what if his humor is not my vibe? His takes are actually quite intelligent and I can enjoy listening to him talk, just as I can have a connection with my friend on matters different than simply a sense of humor.

Have not watched the video yet, just joining the conversation.

Edited September 5, 2021 by Girzo

[Scholar]

3 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

You think he actually believes that? Lol

Talk about bad faith.

His position is that morality is subjective, therefore his only goal in life is to convert everyone with rhetoric of his value system. For individuals who cannot be convinced by rhethoric, he views it justified to do so by force, stating that he has no problem with eventually killing everyone who would be unable to agree with him or be willing to be subjugated by his personal value system, as soon as he would be in power. I think it's a position many people would somewhat agree with but Vaush made it extra spicy with the way he framed it.

 

But he also thinks it's totally a-okay to pay for people to rape and torture infants so you can watch videos of it to jerk off to, because all consumption under capitalism is unethical and therefore individuals cannot ever be taken to be responsible for their consumption. Which is the most mindblowingly stupid position you can come up with because you simultanously say all consumption under capitalism is unethical but at the same time it's perfectly okay to engage in all consumption under capitalism.

The lengths people will go to to avoid being vegan is utterly fascinating to me.

Edited September 5, 2021 by Scholar

[Raptorsin7]

@Scholar Vaush is heartless what do you expect

[Scholar]

One really important thing to realize is that these people are not at all grounded in stage green, they are as orange as you can be. They merely adopt stage green values as an aesthetic. You can see this very well with people like Hasan who live the most stage orange life you can possibly imagine, while in a pure stage orange manner convey their supposed stage green ideals.

This is why these guys are so attractive to people, because fundamentally they are stage orange, not green.

Edited September 5, 2021 by Scholar

[Fleetinglife]

4 hours ago, Leo Gura said:

I am talking about his political positions.

Socialism in One Country with American characteristics, the anti-Stalinist libertarian reformist and co-op transitionary kind. Rest of the globe bunch of left-wing deviationists with authoritarian tendencies and anti-American alignments and biases.

[Raptorsin7]

1 minute ago, Scholar said:

One really important thing to realize is that these people are not at all grounded in stage green, they are as orange as you can be. They merely adopt stage green values as an aesthetic. You can see this very well with people like Hasan who live the most stage orange life you can possibly imagine, while in a pure stage orange manner convey their supposed stage green ideals.

This is why these guys are so attractive to people, because fundamentally they are stage orange, not green.

Hahaha I was thinking about this the other day. This is so true.

This is a game to these guys. They don't care about what's true.

[Raze]

Calling him evil is hyperbolic.

 

But this is a really good video, especially the second half. A good analysis of how blind stage green toxicity can be.